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One Sided 1774 Coin. (Id: Hall Pfennig)

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I received this in a large lot of old German States coins. This item has a smooth reverse, literally nothing on it. 13mm round, paper thin, and weighing 0.3 grams.

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That seems strange to me but that type of coin is not in my realm of knowledge
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Well isn't that something. I assumed it was a one-off, or someone had ground the reverse.
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When they first started making these Handleinheller in Hall, and on later small silver pfennig/heller issues (e.g. Regensburg, Frankfurt), whether by hammering or roller press, it was pretty rapidly determined that you couldn't strike a design on both sides due to the thinness of the metal. The fact that it was quicker and more cost effective to only use one die didn't hurt, either. And as small as these coins were, you couldn't fit much of a design on them as it is!

The good thing (for us) about these coins being so small is that they were easily lost, and a lot of them therefore survived in great condition to be found by metal detectorists.

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Nice find. Coin looks AU condition.
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I was thinking the same thing. Example in the Numista link is pretty worn, etc.
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interesting, never seen one in a condition like this before
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As a mainly US collector, it boggles my mind that a coin from the 1700's in a decent grade would only be valued around $20. I'm considering changing my focus towards world coins, because they are much more accessible and so very interesting.

Now that I have a better photo system, heres a new picture.

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Wow, while uniface coins of German States are well known to me, I do want to ask what you used to get that better photo?
There is a camera and / or an equipment or photography section, so I can look for a reply there if this isn't the right place to reply.
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Wow, while uniface coins of German States are well known to me, I do want to ask what you used to get that better photo?
There is a camera and / or an equipment or photography section, so I can look for a reply there if this isn't the right place to reply.


I struggled with various techniques with my Iphone and another camera, but I got frustrated and I bought a system from Ray (username rmpsrpms). Basically System 3 as shown on his webpage.

I'm very happy with it, but it is not very useful for items larger than about 40mm.
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Very nice and thank you for showing that. I will explore that.
I have a Canon camera on a microscope stand much more bare and simple.
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