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Pillar of the Community
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I was wondering if regular rubbing alcohol is safe to use when trying to take a thumbprint off Lincoln cents and silver coins. Some of them might be too old to remove but I have a few that appear to be relatively fresh. Alcohol won't do damage, though, right?
Mike
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Bedrock of the Community
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I would not recommend rubbing alcohol(isopropyl alcohol, isopropanol) because it is 30% water and not really intended to be a solvent. Water can leave behind water spots but that is more of a concern with uncirculated or proof coins. Xylene works well for copper and acetone is good for silver/gold. Those two solvents evaporate rapidly and leave no residue behind. However, keep in mind that if the fingerprints are old, your chances of removing them are slim to none because the organic acids in skin oils will etch the fingerprint into the coin over time.
Disclaimer:Take precautions when using VOCs(volatile organic chemicals) on coins- do an evaporation test in clear glass for purity(if no residue left behind, it is pure enough to use), use in a well ventilated area(vapors can be intoxicating and not in a good way), do not use anywhere near an ignition source(either flame or electrical), and minimize skin contact with VOCs((minimal contact is acceptable, just don't bathe in the stuff)
Edited by biokemist6 07/24/2008 11:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
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The alcohol I have is 91%, but I guess even the remaining 9% water would be bad.
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I would guess that remaining 9% water is distilled? Unless it's a proof or BU coin, I seriously don't see any harm done. It's good to consider what most coins have been through before acquired by collectors. 
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I've used rubbing alcohol as a substitute for acetone to remove PVC residue. It can leave spots. It can also effect luster and spark corrosion If a coin is soaked too long.
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Pillar of the Community
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Alcohol also removes all the toning from the coin......use acetone.
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Pillar of the Community
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 I think anything alcohol removes would also be similarly by acetone. Neither of which should remove real toning, which are oxides/sulphides of metal.
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Bedrock of the Community
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One point is if the coins in question are not valuable then you've got nothing to loose by trying. To go out and purchase some chemical for just the attempting removal of a fingerprint or something on a coin of little value is not real economical. And just where did you get 91% Alcohol anyway? With such a solution it would be interesting to find out the results for removal of any contaminates on coins. However, again I would stress don't play around with coins of any value since the end results would be or could be nonreversable.
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Thanks Carl. I went ahead and used it anyway. I picked up the bottle of 91% alcohol at my local CVS, actually. I used a lint free cloth and dabbed lightly at it and it came right off. Under 10x magnification I can see no scratch marks in that area. I guess for gentle spot cleaning for obvious dirt it works pretty well. I checked it again just now and see no evidence of water spots or anything like that.
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Pillar of the Community
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Where do you get acetone? I know it is in nail varnish remover but presumably that is not a very pure source.
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Pillar of the Community
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You can get it at any hardware store. Make sure it's 100% acetone, though. Nail polish remover has some other chemicals thrown in there that might destroy the surface of the coin. I don't guess you guys have Home Depot over in the UK? 
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So, I'm assuming that using acetone to clean gunk, PVC residue, fingerprints, etc. off of a coin won't harm the coin, right? Will it then be considered a "cleaned" coin? As in, will it loose it's luster, etc.? And I'm not considering using it on a BU coin...I'm talking more along the lines of a VF/AU coin that has some gunk on it, etc...just thought I'd ask before I start scrubbing away  . Also, is it best to soak the coin in the acetone, then use a toothpick/cotton swab to clean it? or would it be better to dip a cotton swab in the acetone and try to scrub/clean just the spot that needs it? (sorry for all the n00b-like questions)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Acetone is an organic solvent(VOC) and will not react with metal as long as it is pure. It will remove things like PVC residue, finger grease, dirt, etc. It will not remove luster or toning. It is best to dunk the coin in the acetone so all sides are covered. You can let it soak for an hour or so if it is especially gunky, otherwise a minute or two is fine. Once you remove it from the soak, dunk it in a batch of clean acetone to remove anything dissolved in the soak. I personally see no need to rinse with distilled water since acetone will completely flash off and leave no residue.
Acetone will only remove recent fingerprints. Skin oils are acidic in nature and the prints will eventually be etched into the surface of the coin- acetone will not remove these prints. Another thing to note is that it is possible for the coin to have a different patina underneath what you may be removing, especially if you have heavy buildup around devices. It has to be a personal decision on what to do in an instance like this and ask the question- "do you have a really good shot at improving the coin?" If you answer no or are not sure, it is best to just leave it alone.
Disclaimer:Take precautions when using VOCs(volatile organic chemicals) on coins- do an evaporation test in clear glass for purity(if no residue left behind, it is pure enough to use), use in a well ventilated area(vapors can be intoxicating and not in a good way), do not use anywhere near an ignition source(either flame or electrical), and minimize skin contact with VOCs((minimal contact is acceptable, just don't bathe in the stuff)
Edited by biokemist6 07/29/2008 10:44 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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cool...thanks for the info. time to make a trip to the hardware store 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Remember when purchasing Acetone from a hardware or paint store. I will usually come in a can. These cans are mass produced and are coated on the inside with substances that will normally not mix with the solutions inside. However, as in any mass produced manufacturing process, things can and do go wrong. If the inside of the can's protective material is not made just right, not coated properly, or it the container itself didn't seal correctly, the solution inside could be contaminated. Prior to using Acetone or similar products do as biochemist6 has noted. Note also, use only clean glass containers and glass utinsils when working with Acetone. Do not place in plastic or metallic containers when attempting to do anything with coins. Use in a well ventilated area. Do not smoke or light matches or lighters in the area. Also, remember that if going out to purchase such materials for cleaning a coin. The cost of driving somewhere, the cost of the product, you time, possibly purchasing glass utinsils. If the coins in question are just normal, everyday coins, sort of a waste of money. However, on the brighter side you can then post a subject on how I spent my afternoon.
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