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1990 Lincoln Proof Cent With No S

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First here is there comparison photo used by PCGS between the Philadelphia and the No S variety:


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I will use this to reference a few key points because I couldn't take the best pictures to capture the cameo. First, you can notice the 9s on the P mint curl in more drastically and end at more of a point, where the variety doesn't curl as much and ends squared, below are the photos of my coin, this all can be clearly seen. Next is the position of the vdb stamp, again mine matches the variety. Another easy reference is the evenly centering the stamp, an easy point of reference is the T in Trust, it is very close to the rim in the P mint. Also, in the variety the rim is nicely squared, below mine clearly is. To me my coin below matches the No S variety, thoughts?


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I took the top 2 photos with my microscope and the last ones with my phone with different lighting, I really need to upgrade lol.
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According to your pictures, there is no mirrored field. I think its just a normal uncirculated coin.
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Here I found better lighting I was more worried about detail before
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Your coin is a business strike not a proof strike.
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I've never seen a business strike on a proof planchet before. This thickness is obviously a proof planchet
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This thickness is obviously a proof planchet


I was unaware that a different-sized planchet was used for proofs. Is this really the case?
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A thick looking planchet means a higher than normal tonage was used. Also,even if your business strike cent had a mild cameo look it would still be a business strike coin with a PL designation.
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I'll agree that the rims look good, but it is lacking the frosted look to the design. I think this is just a well-struck business strike.
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I guess maybe I needed to mention I did NOT acquire this fresh out of a mint set, so this does have some wear and has lost some of that proof luster, and my camera isn't the best. So I am fairly certain it's the variety
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I admit you have an exceptional 1990 Lincoln Cent . But I agree that It's a Philly business strike not a proof .
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Looks like a business strike coin, no evidence that it's a proof.
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Note on the first image the two different coins. The Proof coin (on the right) shows mirror like fields, frosted bust and clear devices. These are struck for collectors and get struck twice is special dies that only strike 3,000 coins. The dies that struck the one on the left are struck only once, and strike as many as one million coins. Detail goes away as the die ages. So your coin is not a missing mint mark as they Philly business strike cents dies didn't have one. (The exception to that rule is 2017-P cents. Which were a one time year event:
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Looks like a proof-like business strike.
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Just a BU coin. Sometimes they look that way, but again note the frosting is not present and the mirror rims are not present.
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