1891 Large Leaf And Large Date Serifs Missing On N's?

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papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 11/29/2018 5:26 pm I purchased this coin a couple of weeks ago on e-bay just arrived today in the mail. I know its a common 1891 LL/LD but this is one that I have never seen or herd of before for this reason I purchased it I didn't like the heavy S/H charges that come with it. This coin has no bottom serif's on either N's on the Obverse. I have never seen one with no bottom serif on the N in Canada before this one. I looked through Bosox book Dies & Diadems unless I missed it in the book its not listed anywhere that I can find. Has anyone else ever seen or come across one like this with no serif N in Canada Report this Post to the Staff

fourmack Pillar of the Community New Zealand 1679 Posts	Posted 11/29/2018 5:50 pm You mean like this 1 check your 1 on the date Also Quote The reverse most likely is R1O-L6, the only one I found paired to this obverse die. Since this reverse has no die cracks, only a photo overlay can positively ID it, but I feel confident it is R1O-L6. die cracks around legend, N in REGINA, I spent some time with his pictures. The first one is O2S-L4 (note the little chip on the top of the E in DEI). His is a much later die state than the one I available to photograph for the book, so his die cracks are more advanced than my photos showed. Cheers Don Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more Report this Post to the Staff
fourmack Pillar of the Community New Zealand 1679 Posts	Posted 11/29/2018 5:56 pm sorry miss read I thought you meant the D----I am getting old and senile Cheers Don Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut. "Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 11/30/2018 4:01 pm I gave this coin a soak and put the hawthorns to work after a little touch up its looking better and easier to identify. I'm thinking its a R10-L7, O2S-L5 the first 1 in the date is DP top left underside and on the obverse a small die crack hardly noticeable going through the N in Regina as well as the no serif N as described in Rob Turners book. This coin has also no serif on the N in Canada either but I can't find anything on it maybe a new obverse die or just a clogged lower serif ? Edited by papeldog 11/30/2018 6:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff
bosox Pillar of the Community United States 1353 Posts	Posted 11/30/2018 9:05 pm IMO papeldog's coin is from reverse die R10-L13. The date spacing is close to that of L6, but a photo overlay sorts them out. In the book I found it married to an unidentifiable obverse die (no distinguishing features). I think papeldog's merely had a little grease in the serif of the N in CANADA when struck. http://www.victoriancent.com 2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA. Edited by bosox 11/30/2018 9:07 pm Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 11/30/2018 9:18 pm Thanks for your input and conformation on the die and coin Bosox. I thought maybe clogged die, nice of you to confirm this and satisfy our minds Report this Post to the Staff
bosox Pillar of the Community United States 1353 Posts	Posted 11/30/2018 9:22 pm If you think about how dies are made, if the N in CANADA broke off the punch, it would show on any die sunk after that by that punch. Unless it broke on the very last die sunk, or they re-punched every subsequent die to hide the damage, we would see more of these. That is what happened with the N in REGINA. The serif broke on the punch, resulting in many such dies. http://www.victoriancent.com 2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA. Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 12/02/2018 09:51 am I posted this same coin on another coin site asking about the N's with the same answers about the N in Canada being a clogged die at the serif, but another collector noticed the multi punched rim at the top of the coin. I was so hung up on the no serif N's that I missed the rim, so what would you call this type of coin with multi punched rims any thoughts Report this Post to the Staff
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