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The once popular but now defunct (as far as I know) Franklin Mint put out some nice high quality and artistic issues back in the 1970s. As far as I know, even though many had low mintages, there is not much of a following and they sell for bullion value or less. Although I have seen some exceptions. Is anyone aware of any resurgence in these items?
Edited by jimbucks 12/12/2018 01:52 am
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The Franklin Mint still nominally exists, after being bought out and changing hands several times. However, they no longer make coins under that name, but rather things like die-cast Star Trek chess sets.
As for demand, I believe interest in them is continuing to rise. Low mintages are just one factor.
A key component of the increasing prices is reduced supply. Given the mintages were often low to start with, the numbers of coins that have survived to the present day have been severely reduced, due to two factors.
First, in the 1980s, when the Franklin Mint's name was mud and nobody wanted the coins on the secondary market, many of the coins were simply melted down for bullion value.
Second, the abominable packaging which the Franklin Mint used tended to actively destroy the coins the packaging was supposed to house and protect. The pseudo-velvet lining of the proof coin cases releases acidic fumes as it degrades, causing the coins in contact with the lining to corrode. Franklin Mint sets were issued with little instruction cards, telling people to cut the coins out of the blister packs they were shipped in and to place them into the velvet-lined cases. So anyone who followed the Mint's instructions has unwittingly ruined their coins. The only survivors of the carnage are from people who ignored the "instructions" and either kept the coins in the blister packs or put the coins into 2x2s or other proper coin holders. And, since FM mass-marketed these coins, the vast majority of them were bought by non-collectors who meticulously obeyed the instructions, so those survivors are in the tiny minority of the original number issued.
This ruination was particularly early, and particularly noticeable, by coins bought by customers who lived in warm, humid climates. I'm from Queensland, Australia; virtually the entire state qualifies as warm, humid or both. I've helped many non-collectors identify and sell their hoards of Franklin Mint coins and I've never seen a well-preserved Franklin Mint set. Every single one of them I have seen was already ruined by the time I saw it.
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Those that have appreciated the most, are the gold/platinum releases.
My father collected these, but it wasn't until early 90s that they were
available by the wagonload.
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Like Baseball cards, they just pumped out too many issues.
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About a month ago, I was cataloging a bunch of silver that I want to get rid of, and came across one of these 14th Dalai Lama medals, which I had a very difficult time identifying. I was rather surprised that something from FM would be valued at $240 USD. Unfortunately mine was not protected, so got a bit scratched up. The rest of the FM stuff I have looks like it will be bullion value, but I'll need to do a bit more research.
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@Jadey -
That selling price might be an outlier, but, in any case, it just shows that value is an attribute of the buyer not the item. The buyer might have been a big fan of the DL, or maybe he neded to fill a hole in his collection, or maybe he fat-fingered his bid. Anyway, have you sold any of your medals yet? I have some medals for sale, and I'd like to hear your selling experience. If so, did you get more than BV?
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Quote: Anyway, have you sold any of your medals yet? I have some medals for sale, and I'd like to hear your selling experience. If so, did you get more than BV? I listed 7 items at BIN prices 5-10% above bullion. 2 sold quickly. I also listed another group of 6 presidential where BV is about $85. I started bidding at $70 and placed a BIN at $92. It has one bid at $70 with 4 watchers, so I'll be interested to see what happens near the end when most of the bidding seems to occur.
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In my somewhat spare time that I have, I wrote a book on the topic of Franklin Mint issued medals, coins, and ingots relating to Hawaii.
I did this because the often referenced 1991 book by Medcalf and Russell titled Hawaiian Money Standard Catalog Second Edition cataloged a total of 37 rounds and 13 ingots issued by The Franklin Mint that are directly related to Hawaii.
I found that the Hawaiian Money book missed 43 medals and 21 ingots. So I decided to fill this knowledge gap. Mind you that the missing medals and ingots that I found were all manufactured prior to the Medcalf and Russell publication date of 1991.
There are now a total of 80 medals and 34 ingots relating to Hawaii that were issued by The Franklin Mint.
This is from my book:

The 24KT gold and platinum issues are rare with extremely low mintage. Those items in original packaging command a premium with the Hawaiian collectors.
I never tested this, but Numismatic Guaranty Corporation touts that they encapsulate and grade issues from the Hawaiian Money Standard Catalog Second Edition. Will they encapsulate/grade Franklin Mint issues? A new type of collecting has been identified. What is alapi'i collecting? https://thehawaiiananumismatist.com...-collecting/Lastly, collecting the Hawaii issues require that an original complete set be cannibalized just for the Hawaii specimens or someone is selling a broken-up set for the bullion content.
Edited by DrDarryl 12/30/2018 06:18 am
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Interesting info DrDarryl 
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Very interesting! Thank you for sharing. 
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@JeffBuckles I'm finding that there is little interest for the FM items that I have listed. I'm getting at or just under BV. I'm not interested in leaving these items on BIN listings, because it just eats into my ebay listing limits. I'm going to look for another means of selling the FM items.
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@Jadey -
Thanks for the updates. FM items were always overpriced, but they did put out some nice stuff. So I'm surprised you can't get a bit over spot on these items.
FWIW, I have a set of sterling silver medals from the Wittnauer Mint - there's some nice high relief stuff in there that looks great - a few have matte finish, etc. I thought they'd have some value over spot so I took them to a local dealer. The guy offered me 30% UNDER SPOT for the medals. It was the lowest lowball offer I ever suffered. He tried to explain that they're "just sterling, not .999" etc... I thanked him and walked out. Long story short, I still have the medals.
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The only way to sell FM products if they are coins is to collectors of the country that they claim to be from. If not a coin then the best bet is topically like air planes, animals etc. and many of these will go to antique type sales.
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