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1809 Half Dollar USA

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This looks like the Overton-109b cracked reverse. This is another reference photo.

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Tips of in arrows look different to me
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could be an earlier die state as the die crack likely continued to deteriorate. that doesn't necessarily preclude that it could be a high end fake.
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nss-52 and keith12 - can you explain why the OP's coin is a fake? I just can't see any diagnostics that make the coin fake for 100%.
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That's the way I lean as well, but I was dead wrong on the '95-O dime counterfeit discussed a week or two ago, and so I'll just shut up and listen.
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No one called you stupid. were we come from you cant buy a $200.00 coin For $20.00. and the stars look cartoonish


I have to disagree. I've lucked upon a number of foreign coins here in the US for a tenth of their value. He may have the same situation in the UK. Also, consider that foreign coins are super cheap relative to US coins. A 200 year old coin doesn't seem to be such a big deal in Europe.

Where I do agree with you is that the stars don't match what is shown in PCGS Coinfacts.
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Here's the OP's reverse vs a high-end genuine O-109b.




It appears that the top arrow is at a different angle.
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As an aside, I must agree with Jadey. I's sure where Keith 12 comes from you can't buy a $200 coin for $20, but I guarantee you can still find bargain US coins in out-of-the-way places in the UK and Europe. Back to your local channels.
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Where I do agree with you is that the stars don't match what is shown in PCGS Coinfacts.


The stars look fine to me. Here's a genuine coin in VF20 condition vs the OP's piece.


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Does the date in the post above look slightly different?
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The stars look fine to me. Here's a genuine coin in VF20 condition vs the OP's piece.

I agree that it looks similar to the picture you posted. However, it doesn't look similar to any of these photos on coinfacts.
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I agree that it looks similar to the picture you posted. However, it doesn't look similar to any of these photos on coinfacts.


Your link is to a different Type (XXX edge vs the OP's ||| edge) and also different Overton of course.

The picture I posted came from Coinfacts and is the same Type and also O-109b: http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm...aspx?s=39388

Again I am not saying with 100% certainty that the OP's coin is genuine. High quality counterfeits exist.

The weight, diameter and appearance look good though.

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I do think the 8 looks different on the 2 pics BH1964 posted. For $200 value I think I'd send it to get graded.
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I have to concede. The coin might be real. Just looks funny to me.
And no one says it is. guess only one way to find out. Send it in
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