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PCGS Vs NGC, Which Is Worth More?

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Hello everyone, I have recently noticed that I found a coin I liked, in certified mint condition ms66 from NGC for 30$. Then I saw the same coin but from PCGS for 22. Is this how the prices are now, or was it a coincidence?,

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I've noticed this as well. I think NGC tends to be a bit more sought after? I'm curious to hear people chime in.
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Usually PCGS is the preferred grading company but only slightly and only for coins with a value above $500 or so.

For a cheaper coin(<$100) there is effectively no difference, it's likely you just happened to find a coin that was priced closer to the FMV, or the NGC coin had a bit more eye appeal.
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PCGS tends to get the nod for being valued slightly more.
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PCGS all day! In my opinion which can also sound subjective like grading....I personally see coins in PCGS slabs go for more than coins in NGC. It's due to the fact that PCGS grades better overall.
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Selling prices, purchase prices and coin conditions are all subjective in my opinion. If you were able to post pictures here of both coins, you would get the answer right away.
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I favor PCGS.
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PCGS brings higher prices even when its the same coin where all that changed was the holder. That said coins generally have price ranges and a couple bucks like that doesn't usually make a difference either way and the cheaper the coin the less it really matters, but the PCGS slab does have the best optical clarity of any of them
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It's debatable. Like Baseball and Adam-E said I have found higher end coins might get a slight advantage. But I've also come to realize that more than anything, coins selling above the 4 figure level are also highly dependent on eye appeal.

There's no definitive research that I know of that can prove an advantage to one or the other. So again, it's debatable.
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There's no definitive research that I know of that can prove an advantage to one or the other.


There's an overall advantage to PCGS when it comes to US coins and especially on high end coins.

https://www.PCGS.com/auctionprices

You can play around with that if you want and you will see the clear trend. It doesn't apply to every single coin but the price history is there. PCGS CAC brings the strongest overall as well.

There's a reason why so many Newman/Green coins were crossed to PCGS and why so many of the high end coins get crossed over including many of the ones NGC does press releases about.
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For that coin, go with eye appeal first and foremost. I agree that PCGS tends to sell better overall but more valuable coins won't matter unless it has a CAC sticker on it. NGC AND PCGS coins without stickers are just sitting in dealers inventory right now unless there is something very compelling about them.
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I don't buy four figure coins, so it doesn't make much difference to me. I have both NGC and PCGS graded coins and I like them both. I can say that I enjoy PCGS a bit more for its holder.

As to the question, I don't think the $8 difference in those listings has anything to do with who graded them. It's too small of a range to matter. Depending on eye appeal, of course, get the best deal you can no matter who slabbed it.
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There's no definitive research that I know of that can prove an advantage to one or the other.


There's an overall advantage to PCGS when it comes to US coins and especially on high end coins.

https://www.PCGS.com/auctionprices

You can play around with that if you want and you will see the clear trend. It doesn't apply to every single coin but the price history is there. PCGS CAC brings the strongest overall as well.


I'm also a "show me the data" type. I wasn't aware that database existed, which certainly makes the analysis possible for someone who wants to devote maybe a half day to it. I agree that to draw a solid conclusion, you'd probably want to take a handful of coins/conditions at different price points where you can and do head-to-head comparisons on say, 20 coins from each grading service, sold in the same year.

Anyone got suggestions on high population coins to look at ?
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I don't think the $8 difference in those listings has anything to do with who graded them. It's too small of a range to matter.


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I go to lots of coin shows and coin stores. Almost all of them appear to say if it's in a PCGS slab, it will cost more. Also, many people and dealers I know sort of prefer PCGS. Just has a bigger and more notable name.
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I don't think the $8 difference in those listings has anything to do with who graded them. It's too small of a range to matter.


And too small a population to draw any kind of conclusion.

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