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My Buddy Brought 4 Pirate Coins To My House

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The Four Coin's Are:

1745 Pirate Pillar Dollar 14.5 gram's

Pirate Gold Doubloon, No Date, weighs 19 gram's. Despite what this coin looks like in the picture it is Shiny Gold and has passed all the tests so far.

1792 Pirate Eight Real Bust Peso bears the inscription, Hisp. Et. Ind. R. This inscription says, "King of the Spains and the Indies" It weighs 9.7 gram's

1580 -1750 Pirate Silver Cob, its say's its a Replica in the Description. Weighs 10.8 gram's, no date that I can read on coin.

I really need to get these authenticated, those are the exact weights with my Digital Scale. Any Professional Opinions are Extremely Appreciated.
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The pink felt tells me that these were adhered into a display of sorts. I know nothing about these "coins" but would suspicious of their authenticity. Conversation pieces nevertheless.
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Where did you get these?
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Unfortunately NONE of these coins are real, they are very poorly made replicas. And the weights are less than half what genuine pieces would weigh.
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Makes for an interesting display.
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I'd be more interested in seeing the entirety of the display card or board - it might show some indication of whoever manufactured these replicas. Here's what we can say about them, from what we've seen in the OP:
- Made for a "pirate-themed" souvenir-shop.
- Made in and for America, given the use of the phrase "our coinage system" with reference to the US dollar.
- Made before 1973, when the Hobby Protection Act was passed by the US government preventing the marketing and sale of replica coins within America that do not have the word "COPY" stamped clearly on them.
- Made by somebody who doesn't actually know much about the coins they are copying, because the second coin shown above is actually a copy of a gold Mexico 8 escudos, with the circle of chain around a curved-sided shield, not a silver 8 reales, which at the same time period looked like this Mexican 8 reales, with no chain circle but two pillars on either side of a straight-sided shield. The Spanish deliberately made those two coins with those different designs, so that people wouldn't try to gold-plate a silver piece to make it look like a gold one.
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