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I mentioned this tester on another post, and have questions about it.

So I thought it might be good to make a thread about it.

We have been using this tester for a few months, and so far it seems
to work well. We have several silver rounds and a couple gold coins,
that looked good, but did not have that proper finess.

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Set for finess you want to test
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Place coin on unit. If it is the correct finess, that box will appear
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If the coin is not the proper finess, the box may appear outside brackets
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 Posted 01/07/2016  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is one great piece of test equipment!

Does it work for other items - like things that won't lie flat such as a brooch or cufflinks?
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There is a wand we use on smaller gold coins.

There is a chance it would work on smaller non coin items,
but it would have to fall into the set finess. EX: 90% .. 999 fine.

It only tells you if the item is is the correct finess.
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wow just looked it up and the price is pretty hefty. It definitely looks like a neat tool to have if you are buying high end coins and want to know if something is silver without doing a ring test.
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I would love to have one if they weren't so expensive.
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That is pretty cool. Does the shop also have an XRF to double check? I have scanned a lot of items with my XRF and there are definite variations from one planchet to another within the same date and series. It would be a shame to pass on a good coin because it doesn't meet the tolerance of one machine. For only 700 I may just buy one to play around with.
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Does the shop also have an XRF to double check?


Not at the shop. But they do have access to better equipment,
including XRF.
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Not at the shop. But they do have access to better equipment,
including XRF.

It would be interesting to see what the actual deviation of the scanner you have is. Did you ever double check the ones that didn't pass? I've scanned some quarter eagles that were almost 93% while others were 88%. I'm sure that is within standards for the coin, but would your tester show it as bad?
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Interesting... from their site, the basic unit runs $625 up to $889 and yes, it can read through slabs (the demo video shows an ASE in an NGC slab). And it wouldn't take more than 1 fake AGE to pay for itself...

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Pretty darn cool. I would think this would be a must for any coin shop owner.
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I have a very powerful XRF in my lab at work, so I would never need something like this. I did not research this instrument, but how does it work? Is it like a fancy resistivity meter?
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Yes, do tell.

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If you move the coin around, how does this affect the reading? I would think surface residues would present their own XRF spectra that might lessen the apparent eg silver content.

Also, I am curious about the planchet-to-planchet variation mentioned by davec13, this is a very surprisingly large variation it seems to me. Although I don't know the standards for gold purity back in the day something would tell me they could have done a better job than 5% variation, but maybe not...
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The coin shop I visit back home in Charleston has one of these and it's pretty sweet. I'd love to have one to play with but I really can't justify the cost.
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Wow, a few question ..

How does it work?
I am not sure ... Sorry ... I just set it up and use it. I did read the user
guide, it did not state how it works.

It does say if the coin/sample is hot or cold the reading might not be accurate.
Or if a silver bar has contaminants it might not give a correct reading.
Also if coin is to thin, may not read accurately.

The guide does not state what the variation is.

Sorry I do not have much tech info ...

I was asked in another thread what we use, ...
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