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I decided to look through some culls and see if I could identify them. I found this coin interesting, and had trouble figuring out what was going on. I thought others might as well. Guess if you care to. I only included pictures of the reverse, because that is the interesting part.  Rotated for a better view of the impression.   Edited by Jadey
12/20/2018 8:46 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've got an opinion, but I'd like to see an obverse pic as well.  Edited by Coinfrog
12/20/2018 8:53 pm
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Guess if you care to Well, I'm always willing to guess: this looks like a double vise job but with steel washers rather than other coins. I don't see any transfer of design, only flattening of the peripheral details from the impression. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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OK Kermit, if you insist ...  ... there's one in every crowd.  |
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Well, I'm always willing to guess: this looks like a double vise job but with steel washers rather than other coins. I don't see any transfer of design, only flattening of the peripheral details from the impression. Spence, I'm shocked. Think mirror image. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a 1910s-1940s Lindauer-designed french coin hammered onto an 1897 10 Centimes. Similar to a vise job.
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Not just any hammer, a french hammer.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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 A double vise job with a holed cupro-nickel 10 centimes squeezed against the coin! |
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The majority of these old "vise job" coins actually have a "natural" explanation: somebody used the coin (or a small stack of coins" to level off a piece of furniture, such as a cupboard or lounge chair. Same "squeezing" effect, just over a prolonged period rather than "all at once" like in a vice or with a hammer.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I've never heard of a vise job before, so I thought it was pretty interesting. Apparently its not uncommmon. Thanks for the responses.
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United Kingdom
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I have a couple of vise jobs which have an interesting characteristic. If you view the coin edge on with the overprinted part to the bottom, there is an approximately 15 degree bend in the coin level with the innermost part of the overprint. No doubt this is from how it was clamped. Can anyone say if this is a general characteristic of such fake error coins?
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@Anaximander, that is an interesting question, but probably one better discussed on its own thread. I think that I understand what you are saying, but would like a pic to confirm.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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I like Sap's answer. The obverse looks porous like it sat on a concrete floor to level the object whether furniture or machining equipment in a shop.
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Bedrock of the Community
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That is an interesting explanation.
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technically not a fake coin, just that its trying to fake a double strike with PMD. |
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