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1974 D LMC Is This RPM And DDO And The Tie Is Weird

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 Posted 12/20/2018  10:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Boxcar12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this an RPM and the liberty looks like DDO to me but I still get a lot of them wrong. The tie is strange too.
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 Posted 12/21/2018  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is the large date for 1974 (yes, there were a large and small date that year)
Proof small and large dates:
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Business strike Small and large dates:
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 Posted 12/21/2018  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Boxcar12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you I didn't realize there were large and small dates for 1974. Is the liberty doubled or is that just part of it and the tie looks strange.
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 Posted 12/21/2018  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Liberty area is showing the MD the strongest. Only one side of the devices are affected. Look at the centers of the devices, not the edges.

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I forgot the question about the tie looking weird. That is form die over polishing to remove damage to the die or clash marks. Some dies get abraded so much that the devices start to go away. What does that mean? When a die is polished what goes away first? the fields. The outside part of a die is the fields. Thus when the die are handled, they may bump into each other. This may put a die dent, or get a scratch on the field called a die gouge or when being polished, the dies may show die scratches. Anything like a dent, gouge or a scratch on the die is a negative mark on the die. When it returned to usage, the incuse mark on the die, leaves a raised mark on the coins struck. But if the die is continued to be worked over with more polishing, the fields thin and the sub level devices that are sunk into the die suffers. Like your coin so much of the field was removed that the tie now looks, as you put it weird. But what happens when this is done many more times. It will start to look like this:
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More of the sub devices, and now the mid devices are being removed. Thus the not neck look happens the mouth goes away, the bridge of the nose goes away and the die is reaching retirement soon because of was abraded so much. That is what happened to the tie.
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 Posted 12/21/2018  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Boxcar12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I appreciate the time you take to explain it.
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 Posted 12/21/2018  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a problem. Just keeping my gray matter active.
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 Posted 12/21/2018  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More food for thought. See 1974D-1DO-002 listing. Thanks, Doug.

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds

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Type 1 large date. FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY: Light to moderate extra thickness can be seen on the date, LIBERTY and the motto. All Type 1 dies will show this extra thickness to some degree or another.
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