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Dronepilot New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 2:36 pm I took this coin to a coin dealer and stated to me this coin was a fake. How can you tell this is a fake? Is the coin a fake? Report this Post to the Staff

ratman4762 Pillar of the Community United States 2520 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 2:50 pm My 1st instinct says "yes" it is a fake due to color. But, my eyes are old & need larger, properly oriented photos. Weight is one way to tell. A real one would weigh very close to 26.73 grams. Then there are the magnet tests. Report this Post to the Staff
Keith67 Pillar of the Community United States 6527 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 2:57 pm need much better photos. but the mint only made 972 of those I'm sure that's not one. but I have put my foot in my mouth before Report this Post to the Staff
Dronepilot New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 2:59 pm I weighted the coin and it is 26.6 grams. Close compared to other morgan coins. Should have posted in my first post. So my next question id how do I take a pictures that can bring the details out for the many question I have about the coins that I have? Report this Post to the Staff
Keith67 Pillar of the Community United States 6527 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 3:05 pm sorry I was wrong on the mintage it was 110,000 Edited by Keith67 12/28/2018 3:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Dronepilot New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 3:21 pm How do I get a better picture. I have a DSLR cannon 70D. Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4469 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 3:46 pm There was only one set of dies used for the business strike on the 1894. The date position on your coin is wrong. The dealer is correct it is a counterfeit. On OP coin from the neck point the 1 sits square over the forth denticle. On Genuine example the 1 sits between the 3rd and 4th dentile. There are other die markers on the 94, but not necessary because the date position is incorrect on OP coin. OP Coin Genuine Coin Report this Post to the Staff
Dronepilot New Member United States 24 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 5:18 pm OK, I can see that the coin is fake. So what did they do. Take a different date Morgan and change the date? or did they just stamped a fake coin? Just trying to learn and thank you very much. Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4469 Posts	Posted 12/28/2018 5:46 pm The OP coin looks like a Chinese counterfeit. Some 94 counterfeits have the date position correct and the die markings have to be used to determin if it is a fake. It is also common for the 94 to have a mint mark removed from a genuine 94S or 94O when the mint mark is removed there is often tool marks left behind. On key date Morgans it is best to buy in a TPG holder unless you know what to look for in counterfeits. Report this Post to the Staff
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