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Is My 1961 Three Pence A Mint Error

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Hi
I have a 1961 dated three pence that is considerably thinner than it should be. It only weighs 5.2 grams instead of the 6.8 grams that it should be. Also it looks like it could be copper and not nickel brass. Anybody seen one before or know how I could get it authenticated?
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The Royal Mint excecutes orders for circulating coinage of many other countries.
This coin is most probably struck from a round bronze planchet intended for one of it's customer countries.

I note that this coin appears to be a lot rounder than a normal brass threepenny bit. A normal threpenny planchet before striking, would be dodecagonal.

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The colour is probably just toning. The other countries that had such threepences were Fiji (same specifications) and Nigeria (half the weight) so it's probably not a foreign planchet.
I think it's struck on an elliptically clipped planchet (a bit of the curve around the top is missing) which would probably explain the heavy fish-tailing on the + ELIZ on the obverse.
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Thanks for your input guys. I think I will send it to The Royal Mint to see if they can explain what went wrong
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I have seen many threepence of this time period that are struck on thick or thin planchets - this does not seem to be other than poor planchet prep IMO.
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It was a period slightly later than 1961 that weird error things were happening to British coinage. I suspect that your coin is a genuine accidental error.

1967 is a time when errors were far more common.

1967 was a time when the Mint was asked to execute the change to a decimal currency system, as well as shut down the London minting facilities and transfer to Llantrisant, a small village about 10 kilometres from Cardiff, Wales.

A lot of the Mint employees were very unhappy about having their jobs being transferred outside the conveniences of London, and some protested because of this.

It was during this period that the production of mint errors greatly increased. Quite a large proportion of the error production was deliberate.

Some of these error coins were even distributed (illegally) to the public for free! They were deliberately produced, and thrown by employees over the perimeter walls of the London Mint premises, to be picked up by passers by. Other error coins were simply allowed to slip through checking process, into general circulation.

I have a perfectly struck 1965 British Penny of about 2/3rds of the correct weight, which is common enough.
With a date of 1965, most probably a deliberate error.
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I have threepences from the 1950s with weight and thickness variances.
The Off Metal Strikes (OMS) from the 1960s are just great, do PM me if you have either an interest or question.
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