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Norway
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Hey! I'm wondering if anyone can help out grading and maybe the value of it? Thanx :)   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have to admit: I know little about this coin
Are you satisfied with the edge?
Post a picture of the edge if you can.
Lettering a bit rough at 7 o'clock (obv.)
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Valued Member
Denmark
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What is the weight of this coin? Where do you have it from?
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New Member
 Norway
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Prncoins. The scale I have aren't very accurate, but is shows about 25 grams.
Edited by Exibit
01/06/2019 6:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I highly suspect this to be a forgery. Look at the valuation for a real example and tell us how much you paid for yours. |
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Norway
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jgenn. I would like to know why you think this a forgery, I can't see anything that tells me that it is, but then I'm no expert. There are also two different coin from that year, there are also the "wild lion" coin, that are more rare. The coin(s) are from heritage, so I'm a noob.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1156 Posts |
Coins minted in 1628 were hammered and exhibit significant variations in planchet thickness -- your example is much too uniform in thickness and much too evenly struck to be from this period.
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Valued Member
Denmark
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I, too, think this coin looks like a copy, but I am 100% sure you can get all the info wanted in any larger norwegian facebook group.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1156 Posts |
If you paid a small amount then take this as learning experience -- rare coins are typically very expensive. If you paid more than a small amount try to get your money back and/or take it to a coin shop for authentication. A genuine Norway speciedaler from 1628 would only be sold by a museum, reputable dealer or specialist collector. I hope you didn't buy this on ebay from China or Russia because they made a nice profit no matter how little you paid and they will continue to sell these forgeries because it's profitable to them. Edited by jgenn
01/06/2019 9:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Edited by tdziemia
01/06/2019 10:49 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1156 Posts |
The photos linked by @tdziemia certainly don't look hammered. I could be wrong about the minting process -- early roller press? Still, provenance is one of the best ways to establish authenticity.
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Belgium
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Quote:
A genuine Norway speciedaler from 1628 would only be sold by a museum, reputable dealer or specialist collector. Quote:
provenance is one of the best ways to establish authenticity  so the question to Exibit is: how did he obtain this fabulous piece? the question becomes more urgent since in a separate thread Exibit exhibits a very rare 1/4 speciedaler Edited by 1c5d7n5m
01/07/2019 11:43 am
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United States
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Coins minted in 1628 were hammered and exhibit significant variations in planchet thickness -- your example is much too uniform in thickness and much too evenly struck to be from this period. I agree, it looks modern made. |
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Norway
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I just got confirmed from a serious coindealer that the coin IS real, this coin is worth a lot of money ;)
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Valued Member
Denmark
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Hmmm, I do not understand why the thread holder doesn't go and hear about his many (Danish too) - expensive coins in the pretty large norwegian facebook groups.
I come from Denmark, and it will be pretty easy for my to invest more in this matter. I have many more questions than answers.
Actually I have sold a genuine norwegian sp. 1628 some years ago. The condition of this coin was probably VF35/EF40 by US grading scale, and I sold it for about $3500.
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New Member
Norway
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Hello, I know at least a bit about these coins.
It looks like a genuine specimen. Not too rare (maybe 50 pieces known), but quite populare, since it is the first year of Christian IV in Norway, and a "Type" coin.
It seems to be a VF35-EF, and the hammer price at an auction would be around $ 5,000. Then you would probably need to pay a sellers premium of 15-20%, so your net would be around USD 4,000.
Can you tell a little bit more about where you have purchased it? And does your request mean that you want to keep it in your collection, or is it a sales probing? I can also help you if you need assistance.
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Posted 01/06/2019 4:59 pm
