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Coronet Head Large Cent - Reverse Struck On Both Sides?

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 Posted 01/14/2019  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, WalkingJim. Let us know how the certification goes. I'm betting genuine!
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I'd have it authenticated as a brockage (preferably by SEGS or NGC) but NOT graded (this, to lessen fees).

To the best of my knowledge authentication and grading are the same price. There is no fee saving.
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Quite an unusual thing for sure. Tell us how you came to own it!
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To the best of my knowledge authentication and grading are the same price. There is no fee saving.


I could be wrong. I use SEGS, and there may be a higher fee for grading/attribution. That said, the main reason I shun grading on pieces like this is to avoid the unkind adjectives like "corroded" or "environmental damage"; this, even though the descriptions are self-evident.
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enlightening thread
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OK it is possible that SEGS might have two different prices, NGC does not.

Checked the SEGS website, I don't see an authentication only service, but they do have a "pre-Screen" service that would seem to fit, where they examine and grade but do not slab. I would assume authentication would be part of the examination. (Oddly after the pre-screen you can have them go ahead and put it in a slab for an additional fee. The additional fee plus the pre-screen fee does add up to less than just submitting the coin for grading and slabbing.)
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Thanks for the clarification, Conder. Many of the coins that I submit to SEGS are what average collectors view as problem pieces, damaged. High grade coins, I send to PCGS, of course.

Here's an example of a coin I submitted to SEGS. Even though the coin is a relatively scarce variety, it's the counterstamp that I find important. J.J. OUTLEY was a daguerreian, a.k.a. ARTIST, who was active in St. Louis in the 1850's. Fewer than ten of his counterstamped coins have been recorded.

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Note that I simply had the counterstamp and the "Huge O" variety noted. These aspects are what's important for this piece. If this coin was in Mint State, the counterstamp would be a major detractor.

Getting back to our OP's coin, the date and likely the variety are insignificant. The "money shot" is that it's a rare error. The condition is self-evident. With pieces like this, I think it important to accentuate the positive aspects, that which make them rare and desirable to collectors who seek a particular genre. After all, how many collectors will ever own a brockage large cent in any condition?

P.S. - I appreciate the SEGS holders above all others. I find them to be the most durable and scratch resistant. Also, they're relatively inexpensive and boast a "top read" label.
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Found a similar piece to the OP coin in the Dan Holmes III sale. It's rough as well but not quite as rough as the OP coin This one sold for $978
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