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Who can get the right grade first? Thanks....  
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Pillar of the Community
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PR-62 is the PCGS grade I think.
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Bedrock of the Community
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all 1804 dollars are proofs. this one is the mickley specimen which is class 1 or original striking (rather than class 2 restrikes). TPG grade can be looked up easily so no need to state it here before the op's reveal. for a presentation proof, the obverse looks weakly struck in the hair and even looks rubbed. the reverse is better. I would grade it as an impaired proof at pf55, but that does not fly with so-called "legendary rarities." max mehl would be beeming and proud of his posthumous success in marketing and coaxing these coins into realizing stratospheric premiums.
Edited by numismatic student 01/18/2019 12:41 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like different coins to me. The obv looks counterfeit. The reverse looks proof 64.
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obv.: Some obvious nicks on the obverse which the patina cannot hide, probably lots of minor hairlines which may have shown up on a freshly minted coin, hair detail over the ear a bit weak (perhaps not fully struck up?)- hard to tell with these pics if it is wear or not.
rev.: Couple of bad digs next to the shield - not quite enough to get a 'details', other minor nicks, when you look for them showing through the patina.
Au55.
A famous rarity. What is the provenance or auction record of this piece?.
I see that this coin has a black outline around all of the detail on the obverse side. Left overs from an old cleaning? Looks a bit odd to my eye.
I have a pretty good fake of one of these, but then again, so do thousands of others. It is about the only way I will ever get to associate with a genuine example.
Edited by sel_69l 01/18/2019 07:05 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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I chased up the reference of numismatic student - it is the Mickley specimem. All 1804's are proofs.
It sold for $,3877,500 at Heritage.
For the purposes of this exercise in this thread, I decided to treat the grading inquiry like any other inquiry.
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Ok, shout out to SilverDollar2017. The first to get the grade correct. Numismaticstudent did get the pedigree which is not a suprise. This piece was featured in a Coinweek article about current owner D.L. Hansen. Thanks to all that responded. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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1804 dollars are so rare they're more ranked than graded.
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Quite a coin you got there ;)
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That coin is owned by Hansen. He's the guy that's trying to build a Eliasburg collection. He just bought the 1885 Trade dollar at the FUN show earlier this month for just under $4 million
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