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I don't know the proper term for what I'm going to describe here and am not sure if the pics will turn out as I havent taken them yet. The area I'm noticing is just above Liberty's head. It is an indented area that seems to be in the exact same shape as the top of Liberty's head if it were just moved down and back a little bit. I hope you are able to see what I am seeing.

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malissa, the weak lettering on the reverse gives the appearence of a planchet error. But. The coin also appears to have been in the ground for a period ot time. This could just be a corroded area. Lets see how others feel about it.
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 Posted 08/05/2008  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be corrosion when there is no damage to the stars in that area?
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I think it is some kind of corrosion. The weak area should be at the bottom of the reverse but it is the top of the reverse that is weak. Also if this was in the planchet then the star at the top of the obverse would not be struck up as strongly as it is. I don't have alot of experience with dig up coins but this looks like post mint damage to me.
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 Posted 08/05/2008  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting one to explain.

First, it is corrosion. The reason that the field is effected and not the stars so much is that whatever the corrosive material was remained on the field of the coin and was removed by circulation from the surface of the stars.

It is hard to say for sure if the coin was buried or not, but all that black stuff is what we would call environmental damage. A handy-dandy two word phrase for corrosion.

I hope that helps.

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The design I feel has something to do with this question. Probably the coin was dark colored and someone worked hard to remove the dark color. With the stars being higher on the design, they would have allowed the metal to shined up more on that area. The stars being taller than the field. You can see some open field areas also showing the nickel color more like it had been rubbed.
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So basically someone found this in the ground, tried to clean it, damaged it and my dealer ended up selling it to me? :( not cool. kind of weird that I never even noticed it til now.

thanks for all the info
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Hi,

Keep a few things in mind though. The coin is a wreck anyway and your dealer had it for sale. Unless the dealer took you aside and tried to really get you to take this "gem" it was probably not aggressively sold to you. You bought it in that condition so I don't think the dealer did anything dastardly:-) You shouldn't have paid more than a buck so it is only a light hit to the pocket.

Just my five cents worth:-) It sounds as if you thought the dealer did an "uncool" thing.

Bill

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I actually just plain ol' didnt see that area at all until now. I'm not sure how I missed it and to be honest dont remember how much I paid. I think back when I got it I would have assumed it was just toning not some kind of under the ground nastiness and corrosion. I'm not too sure about the dealer at this point as a number of the coins I bought from him previously that I posted pics of on the forum came back with the general consensus that they have been cleaned.

in any case, I'll keep it since I already have it. lol
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Some people have carried coin in the change for a time to get the taller devices to be rubbed and change those devices. It makes them appear antiqued. Sometimes makes them look nice.
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