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I have been tinkering around purchasing a few gold coins here and there but mostly newer mint releases.

With gold as it sits today, it is really difficult to swallow buying a 1/2 oz. gold for $500+.

Does anyone have any good ideas on some older gold coins that might be worth taking a look at it that might have potential of increasing in value over the years for collectibility value but might also be able to be picked up at or below the current spot rate?

I have been collecting coins all my life but generally have collected run of the mill type stuff that has been affordable and not too rare or exciting but have a renewed interest in trying to find some potential diamonds in the rough so to speak.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 08/05/2008  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any gold coins you can pick up at below spot is a great deal
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Most common date gold coins in F-VF can be had for close to spot. A small premium up to MS62 and then it jumps from there.
If you want better numismatic values, try the older gold coins from the south with the C (Charlotte) or D (Dahlonega) mintmarks.
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low mintage coins
dahlonega and charlotte coins
proof gold coins (good luck finding them)
pre-1839 coins

all have good potential
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Seeing as bkbroiler wants to buy coins for at or below melt, I highly doubt that proof and C and D mint coins will be available. Occasionally circulated classic head gold coinage can be found close to melt in various dealer's circulated coin boxes. Honestly, the prices of generic gold coins that can be purchased for close to melt will always correspond to the spot price of gold.
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I will tell you, I paid $899.00 for a Gold Buffalo 1 oz proof coin from the mint last year and thought it was outrageous, now when I see them selling on ebay for 11-$1300.00 it doesn't seem like such a bad deal anymore. 3-500 bucks in a years time is a pretty good profit on a coin
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Unless your buying a collectable coin in great condition , is the way to go. The market for just gold right now is slowly sinking. As long as oil keeps diving , which it will and the US can get the dollar going up. Gold will keep falling. It's about $875 now , lost over $100 in a month or so.
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I should get myself one of these buffalos some day....
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I disagree that present volatility in precious metal commodities like gold indicates that gold is overall sinking... The dollar is ultimately unfortunately not going to do so well so fast. So, I perceive gold as likely averaging in the 900s and possibly going higher in months to come. In any case, good collectible gold coins seem especially in higher grades to be a good investment over the long term according to what others have said in response to recent inquiries on this website.
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I'm avoiding Gold and Platinum presently. Just a little worried about the China syndrom of producing so many fakes. Of course if you need Lead for something, that appears to be the place to go.
And then there are those Alchemist still trying to change all metals into Gold. If they succeed, then what happens to those coin prices. Me, I'm going back to Beanie Babies.
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I will tell you, I paid $899.00 for a Gold Buffalo 1 oz proof coin from the mint last year and thought it was outrageous, now when I see them selling on ebay for 11-$1300.00 it doesn't seem like such a bad deal anymore. 3-500 bucks in a years time is a pretty good profit on a coin

I did that too.....except it was the inaugural year of 2006. I purchased two Buffalo's and I also got a 1oz Eagle. I believe the price was $795.00 then ? In 2007 I just purchased 1 Eagle...(still lucky with the price jump)....but yeah I feel fortunate about the price "then" and "now" !....
It took a couple months of saving to come up with the money.....but now I'll have em' forever. But that's IT for gold for me ! (at least in the 1oz range......WAAAAAAYYYYY too expensive now !..
GEEEEHOOSAPHATZ !....
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Based on my limited experiences with US pre 1933 gold:

-Unless the coin is in superb condition rarity means nothing. Unless it's uber rare the value is always driven by bullion.

-Buy what you like to hold and look at. I like the 1907 $10 Indian because of the tall rims and because there's no motto cluttering the field. I used to have an 1846-C $5 in AG that made the greatest pocket piece, but I sold it to someone who wanted it more than me. Sigh.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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-Unless the coin is in superb condition rarity means nothing. Unless it's uber rare the value is always driven by bullion.

That's because the rarity only matters if someone needs it for a set (basically date/mint set) and the number of collectors doing that are rarer than the coins. So without the collectors to create the demand the price falls to much below what the rarity would make you think it should be.
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What that means is that you can own a genuinely rare coin for a small multiple over melt. A common 1891-cc $10 - mintage around 100,000 - sells for a fraction of what the far more common 1889-cc Morgan dollar sells for in the same grade. For me that makes the $10 a more desirable coin.
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If a gold coin has future collector-added value, it probably already trades as a collectible, so you're going to have to pay a premium above melt in order to acquire one. I don't see too much likelihood that bullion coins will 'graduate' into the collectible premium category. I won't pretend to give investor advice, there are always those who think gold is overvalued and undervalued at any given moment. I do still see gold as a 'buy and hold' for the long term, as long as it's part of a diversified strategy that takes your time horizon into account.
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Gold will hit $800 buy the end of the week , if not sooner.
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