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Just about figured out how to get decent pics of my coins, I try to take one of a proof. Does it take something special to take pics of a coin that is a perfect mirror? Took several pics, all came out blackish.

Scratches are on the holder, not the coin.

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That's not a bad pic of a proof coin and in a slab.
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Nice coin. Taking pics of a coin in a slab is not easy
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I think that's a good pic as well.
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Whats the grade on that coin?
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About the only good way I've found to take pictures of mirror-like brilliant proofs is with diffuse axial lighting. It's tougher when the coins are in slabs, since you need to make sure the diffuse light source is extremely uniform. You can then use the Photoshop levels command to subtract out the uniform glare from the slab to get rid of the washed-out look.

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This coin is in an old PCGS rattler slab.
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diffuse axial lighting

eh... what?


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You can then use the Photoshop levels command

I have Paintshop Pro X8 but don't have a clue on how to use it. Where would I find this?
Disregard, found it. When I lightened the coin up, I get a pretty good double reflection of letters/numbers from the plastic slab. Will be a work in progress for me, thanks for the hint!
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Whats the grade on that coin?



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eh... what?


There are quite a few threads here that discuss axial lighting. For example:

http://goccf.com/t/241822

http://goccf.com/t/254675

http://goccf.com/t/261848

http://goccf.com/t/316397



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One way to deal with brilliant proof is by using a umbrella diffuser like this:

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This gilt brilliant proof medal was shot with such a diffuser plus lens shifting.

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This gilt brilliant proof medal was shot with such a diffuser plus lens shifting.


One problem I had with lens shifting with a tilt-shift bellows was that I needed to use a 105mm enlarger lens. The usual 75mm APO Rodagon-D 1X didn't allow enough bellows extension needed for the shift function. I suppose you could use a dedicated shift lens, but aren't those very expensive?
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One problem I had with lens shifting with a tilt-shift bellows was that I needed to use a 105mm enlarger lens. The usual 75mm APO Rodagon-D 1X didn't allow enough bellows extension needed for the shift function. I suppose you could use a dedicated shift lens, but aren't those very expensive?


I used a tilt/shift bellows (Minolta Auto Bellows III) with Schneider Componon-S 100 mm lens for taking this photo. The medal is 36 mm in diameter.
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Nice job but gotta say, wow, way over my head. I think I will just go play with my coins... LOL
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Nice job but gotta say, wow, way over my head. I think I will just go play with my coins... LOL
Try to shoot the coin outdoors in a cloudy/overcast day. It may work.
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Try to shoot the coin outdoors in a cloudy/overcast day. It may work.

I plan on it someday. I'm working on camera equipment and *trying* to improve my skills (or lack there-of). With our daytime temps the last few days being highs between 10 and 20F, below zero and nasty wind-chills, outdoors activity is just about nil for a while. Thanks :-)
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If you blast several lights onto a flat white ceiling, and use the reflected light to take pictures of this coin, it may have the similar effect of a cloudy day. I tried and it worked on brilliant proof coins.
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