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1983 Misaligned Lincoln Die Error.

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Ok last one for today and the question is can a misaligned coin with rim die error cause a coin to lose some weight, coin weighs 2.7 grams couldnt find any answers so I ask you guys
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one on right is the questionable one both have errors but yeah
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a 1983 Lincoln Cent should weigh 2.5 grams. SO it actually is overweight. I think that is within tolerance, so no "error" in the weight.
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unless its copper from the 82 to 83 hence I asked the question lol
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If it were a copper example on a 1983 cent, it should weigh, 3.11 grams. Steel cents are 2.7 grams and zinc ones are 2.5 grams. (+ or - .13 grams)
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understood but could the misalignment make it wiegh less?
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All the coins are cut the same way. They are struck with a collar that is a certain size for each denomination. Reeds are added with the collar on reeded edge coins. So unless the collar is cracked, they should all be the same as normal.
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so basicly unless its worn or broke even with off center should weigh normal due to fact you havnt lost anything right?
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Depending on the actual weight of the planchet before the strike. Some are light. When this happens the devices will be weak on the thinned areas of the coin.
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But on these the weight will be under weight because of the thinned area on the planchet.
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so basicly unless its worn or broke even with off center should weigh normal due to fact you havnt lost anything right?


My understanding is the blank, to planchet, to coin weight should remain constant regardless of strike. Extreme strike exception is if it was way off center and sheared off or separated or broken apart by the die and collar or if something foreign was struck into it.

Pre-strike - planchet defects can exist prior to strike as well.

Most common weight variances include being struck on rolled thick or thin coin stock. Another less common is being struck on a foreign planchet or foreign coin stock.

1st need to determine is its even off center or just a misaligned strike? Current image doesn't suggest off center, maybe suggests a minor misaligned die strike. No reverse image displayed so assume its normal.

Tolerance for modern day cents - (from 1873 on)

+/- 0.13 grams for copper/bronze cents, including 1943 zinc-plated steel cents
+/- 0.10 grams for 1982 to date copper-plated zinc cents

Thanks, Doug.
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I'll post better pictures later reverse is off also and right rim is damaged
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but could the misalignment make it weigh less?

No
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Blank, Run through setup mill turns it into a planchet, on the zinc cents they are washed and plated and then sent to the mint to be struck into cents.
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