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1803 Draped Bust Half Cent Raw Ungraded Mintage 92,000

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I just show..especially if I see an interest in them from other posts....however, the verdigris at the bottom. Is there a safe way to get rid of it? and if this is a variety, what type?
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C-1 die stage III an R-1 coin. And don't place a lot of weight on that 92,000 mintage. That was the number of Half Cents delivered in 1803, but the 1803's were struck in 1803, 04, and 05. Some of that 92,000 were also 1802 Half Cents. In the early years of the mint the "mintage" figures don't necessarily correspond to the dates on the coins.
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wow..very informative Condor 101.
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I seldom believe old statistics about things from that long ago.
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I only put it just to signify it's the least of the years of production other than the 1802 run......however, now I'm not sure if there were more or less.....It would be less if they consider the 1802 production into it and more if the figure has no basis whatsoever.
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That verdigris looks like it's into the metal and probably won't come off. Verdicare might help the look a bit.
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The 1802 mintage is still the lowest, but it is higher than the official figure of 14,366. ALL 1082 Half Cents were struck on planchets cut from spoiled or misstruck cents. (The mint ran out of Half Cent planchets supplied by Matthew Boulton in December 1800 and the next delivery of Half Cent planchets didn't arrive until Nov 1803.)

The 1802 Half Cent deliveries were 8,200 on August 8, 1802 and 6,166 on September 14th. But another 5,900 Half Cents struck on spoiled cents was made on August 8, 1803. No 1803 Half Cents are known struck on spoiled cents so these were probably dated 1802 as well making the final mintage for 1802 20,266. By far the smallest of the Draped bust Half Cents.

The 1803 mintage would be the 92,000 minus the 5,900 1802's plus what ever number were struck in 1804 and 05 so it is still well above the 1802 mintage.
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are there any conservative estimates for 1803 coins struck in 1804 & 1805?
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Most of the first two deliveries of Half Cents in 1804 are believed to be 1803 (284,000) and a few of the next three deliveries are thought to be 1803 but no way to estimate a number. The 18.3's made in 1805 comprise part of the 120,000 pieces struck in Nov and Dec of 1805. Those 120,000 were made up of 1803 C-4, and 1805 C2. 3, and 4. 1805 C-2 and C3 are either very rare or rare todey so they made up just a very small amount of the mintage. 1803 C4 is R-3 and 1805 C-4 is an R-2. If we assume the survival rate for both is roughly equal then we anc assume about 1/3 were 1803 and 2/3 were 1805 so call it 40,000 1803 C-4 Half Cents. This would give us a rough guess of the mintage of 1803 as 92,000 - 5,900 + 284,000 + 40,000 or 410,000 maximum. The uncertainty coming from how many of the 284,000 in the first two shipments of 1804 were dated 1804.
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