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Yes there are! They were enacted to protect the historical heritage of US and State sites from looters. They were written sufficiently broad to allow application in a variety of circumstances. I doubt the authors intended this outcome. It's all up to individual departments or municipalities on how they want to enforce it. It appears NJ is terminally anal.
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Rest in Peace
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That's understandable for Indian burial grounds and stuff, but yeah, NJ is anal in a lot of ways. guess you could just say it's yours and you brought it there for comparison, though.
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Cause there ARE a few ghost towns in the pine barrens and everything, I thought if I ever picked up a decent detector I could try it out there. Not so sure now.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think that particular case is a shameful use of government time--especially since the person experienced a health emergency while in custody. Where's the sense of proportion?  |
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kurt, its all about making a few bucks whilst wasting a huge amount of taxpayer money these days
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So no one else is bothered by an 1879 large cent!
"The officer asked the elderly man to show him what he had dug. Of course the kindly gentlemen was upset, not knowing that he broke a law, and handed the officer a 1879 Large Cent that he had dug a few minutes earlier."
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I'm sure it was just a typo, or something.
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Man !.....  I'm just going to "sneak" if I ever go to a place that even might be state protected !! I don't want to really break any laws or disturb artifacts that shouldn't be removed from sacred grounds or loot any areas for my own amusement....... But, it IS treasure hunting.......and I want some treasures ! No matter how small or insignificant to some people ! Why should I wait for a University to bring a professor and some students to a "ghost town" area or a "pioneers lodge" or old "Indian campground".......when this may NEVER happen ! It's not like I'd sneak into the Custer Battlefield area at night to look for artifacts.......  ....(that, would definitely be breaking all kinds of laws......and if someone was doing that, I could see the result....but some of these other "nondescript" areas.....that's just rediculous!!.,... |
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You have to be careful, there are many places where they will confiscate your machine if they catch you. It falls under the law entitled "we're the police, we're allowed to steal stuff".
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Quote:...but some of these other "nondescript" areas.....that's just rediculous!  I'm all for historical preservation, within reason. Then again, as a bit of an "amateur archaeologist", I'm well aware that many native sites and more recent traces of colonization were "trash dumps" in their own time, and hardly regarded with any sanctity. I find native artifacts that are simply discards or lost while hunting--that's not grave robbing, imo. On that note, if anyone MDs around the SFBay area, I'm more than happy to point you to some hidden remains of early (white) settlements that are being completely disregarded by historians. I've found black powder balls and other things in my local hills. Obviously, this doesn't trangress the indigenous people because they did not work with metals, lol. Edited by KurtS
08/13/2008 6:18 pm
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I'd just be very cautious when metal detecting in various state parks/beaches/monuments. I imagine many ghost towns are state or national landmarks so one must be cautious there. It is often illegal to keep a rock or pine cone or anything from those places (which I still would do if all alone).  |
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"I imagine many ghost towns are state or national landmarks so one must be cautious there."
Right--I'm all for that, and I don't suggest doing anything illegal.
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Kurt......
Do you know the story of Ishi.....the last Yahi indian ? I believe he was the last surviving Yahi Indian after the tribe was taken out through raids and even the Governor of California put a bounty on any Yahi scalp brought in. This took place in the very late 1800's, near the turn of the century.
That's a very fascinating story ! Grahm Greene (Native American) played that role in an amazing movie about Ishi's life and the Professor from the University that took him in.
My uncle lives in the Fremont, Ca. area and his wife's relatives own property that is where Ishi and the Yahi Indians lived. He says there are "mounds" in the area and artifacts are found all the time just laying around after a rain.
I sooooooo want to take a walk in that area !
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08/15/2008 11:23 pm
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He says there are "mounds" in the area and artifacts are found all the time just laying around after a rain. Yes, I know about Ishi... how sad to be the last of your people, culture, traditions. I know about those mounds too...usually they were refuse mounds, but there might be burial sites too. A few still remain in protected areas. |
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Posted 08/07/2008 12:23 pm
