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Tyre Sheckel - Authentic Or Fake? What's The Date?

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 Posted 01/31/2019  3:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add prsferreira to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Dear friends,
I received this sheckel and would like to know what you think, whether it is an authentic piece or not.
Besides, could you tell me his date?
(unfortunately it is attached to this ring)
Thanks a lot for the help!

Tyre-Sheckel---Authentic-Or-Fake?-What's-The-Date?
Tyre-Sheckel---Authentic-Or-Fake?-What's-The-Date?
Tyre-Sheckel---Authentic-Or-Fake?-What's-The-Date?
Tyre-Sheckel---Authentic-Or-Fake?-What's-The-Date?
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 Posted 01/31/2019  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a cast fake to me, unfortunately. I don't know how to date these, but curiously, these shekels are some of the last hellenic issues to be removed from circulation after Rome took over all the greek cities. For whatever reason, the roman replacement coin would only show up late into the Julio-Claudians, while other cities coinage was replaced rapidly (or heavily Roman-ized).
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Wish we could see it without the bezel, IMO it's genuine just very worn and possibly clipped when it was placed into the bezel.
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 Posted 01/31/2019  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prsferreira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And about the holes ... would not they be bubbles of casting?
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@prsf, sorry but I think that you are asking too much with this post. Yes, of course we can look at the fields for casting bubbles, but by leaving this piece in the bezel, you eliminate the possibility of an accurate weight and diameter. As you know, seeing the edge can also be helpful in assessing the manufacturing method for coins. With the current images, you can only have our best guesses. If you want more certainty, please remove it from the bezel and show us all of the information that we need to help you. Thanks!
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Prsferreira;

Spence is correct, you would need to take it out of the bezel. But that said, there are some things to say about worth. First, if this is a cast fake it has more value in the bezel as a religious item with a nice chain for someone in my opinion. As for what it is worth, the coin, if real, would be "fine" at best. So unless it was certified people will always question the coin and you will get like $75 in an open auction from people curious enough to buy it and that would be if the coin was removed from the bezel and people saw the edge and were still thinking it might be real perhaps. If there is a casting seam visible, the value won't be there. Coins like this, if real, could be made more valuable if NGC slabbed and graded it and potentially, (again if they agree it is probably real) the slabbed coin could sell $300-$400. But once they say it is not real to you the value is lost and you are out the $40 for the grading attempt. Finally as to what we can see, if the coin was struck at all with a hammer, and is not cast, a close inspection of the best letters available show the direction of the strike. Below I offer first your coin, the letters expended, and sadly I don't see evidence of a strike angle with one side of the letters deeper than the other. Below that I attach two photos from an NGC coin that sold and was just fine at best. Notice the coin looks very poor, but you right away know there is strike evidence visible. People will pay for a graded Tyre Shekel in any condition as it could be the one from the lot Judas handled. But if it was me I'd just keep it in the bezel and make a nice necklace of it.
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02/01/2019 11:32 am
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