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Buyer Beware!! Not A Henning Nickel.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-JEFFE...382768500539
1944 JEFFERSON 5¢ HENNING NICKEL no mint mark VERY NICE FOR A COLLECTIBLE

The date on the coin is 1941. This seller listed this coin as a 1941 Henning Nickel a few days back and removed it after he was told it is not a Henning Nickel.

We know Francis LeRoy Henning made counterfeit nickels are dated 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947 and 1953.

Follow this link to learn about the Henning counterfeit nickel

http://www.error-ref.com/henning-co...feit-nickel/
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I'll take care of it.
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Interesting.
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Looks like a 1941 nickel.
Snagged a few images of the real FAKE one off ebay for my files:
Buyer-Beware!!--Not-A-Henning-Nickel.
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Buyer-Beware!!--Not-A-Henning-Nickel.
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Coop, your welcome to use any of my images on error-ref or I can send you image of my Henning Nickels
http://www.error-ref.com/henning-co...feit-nickel/

Note: the most common 1944 no mint mark has what is called the looped R. "a void/low spot in the "r" on "pluribus on the reverse"
Your image above is of the non looped R.

On years other than 1944 you can only tell if it is a Henning Nickel is by the weight "Counterfeit 5.40 grams" and a number of markers liked the looped R.
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I was going to pointr out the non void in the R but you beat me to it.
Were some of the Henning's 44 nickels made with a void, and some without. If I read it correctly they all had the void in the R ?
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JC you mean this one?
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Interesting, faking a fake....
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Coop, yes. A later state of this reverse die, Henning claimed he made 6 reverse dies, has a die crack see it here http://www.error-ref.com/henning-co...feit-nickel/

Panther, no. The 44 was struck with a number of different reverse die. Some have raise dots inside the "M" of "UNUM" and some with no looped R.

The raise dots can be used for markers on the other dates, 1939, 1946, 1947 and 1953.
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It appears that you were successful. It is gone. Thank you.

JC Stevens: Thanks for the heads up.
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What exactly was Henning's goal to counterfeit nickels ?

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A fake, fake nickel. Wow.
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What exactly was Henning's goal to counterfeit nickels ?

I'm thinking the thought was to be inconspicuous. Nickels can add up to dollars.
http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/T...0Nickel.html

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An unofficial variety of the wartime coin dated 1944 was made in 1954 when counterfeit nickels were produced by Francis LeRoy Henning of Erial, New Jersey. He had previously been arrested for counterfeiting $5 bills.

The 1944 nickels were quickly spotted since Henning neglected to add the large mintmark of the Philidelphia mint (P). He also made counterfeit nickels dated 1939, 1946, 1947 and 1953.

It is estimated that more than 100,000 of Henning's nickels reached circulation. Henning dumped another 200,000 nickels in Copper Creek, New Jersey, of which only 14,000 were recovered. Another 200,000 are thought to have been dumped in the Schuylkill River.

When caught, Henning was sentenced to 3 years in jail, and had to pay a $5,000 fine.

Thanks, Doug.
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Keep in mind the time period. A nickel then was a good amount of money. I think my Dad worked 6 days a week for $5 a week. When I started working, the min. wage $1.00 an hour. My first year I reported $65 for the whole year. (I was in High School then) That was for 1/2 a year. So a nickel was worth something then.

The sad part of the this subject is that they counterfeits are worth more than the varieties now. Something is just not right about this.
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