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Extremely Fine: XF Or Ef?

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Well it seems like times truly have changed. Back in 2006 http://goccf.com/t/4008 , 56% said EF and 44% said XF. This poll currently shows 34% and 57%, respectively.

The tide has turned strongly in favor of XF, perhaps due to generational differences or the strong influence of PCGS and NGC using XF.
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...perhaps due to generational differences or the strong influence of PCGS and NGC using XF.


I think it has more to do with societal acceptance of using X to mean "extra" or "extreme." As Alpha said, using the X for clothing size purposes has become ubiquitous in the US. It branches into meal and beverage sizes, as well. So, in the US, X is the most widely understood representative of "extra."
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As previously mentioned EF is used in UK grading.
XF in US grading is more like VF/GVF over here.
Likewise a UK EF would probably get low AU in the US.
I don't have a problem with either.
I like the AU grade more than GEF or EF+ as it seems to me to sum it up nicely.
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I voted XF for the same reason that plus-sized T-shirts are labeled XL/XXL/XXXL and not EL/EEL/EEEL. It's just intuitive.

But when it comes to shoes wide sizes are E, EE, or EEE wide.

I feel that EF is the proper way to express it, but admit when I am writing itout I use XF because it is easier to make an X than an E.
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I've always used EF and would rather than switch.
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But when it comes to shoes wide sizes are E, EE, or EEE wide.

The scale for shoe widths is letter-based -- those sizes are above B, C, and D. Unlike E/X for "extra" or "extremely", the shoe size letters don't stand for anything, they're representational. Apples, meet oranges.
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