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Extremely Fine: XF Or Ef?

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 Posted 02/13/2019  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
I am not always consistent but I seem to use XF most of the time.
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 Posted 02/13/2019  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
When I first started collecting it was always said XF (Extra Fine) . After some years by one source or another I found out that was an incorrect way of saying it . The correct way is EF ( Extremely Fine ). Most of the time I use EF but sometimes I find myself saying XF .So as far as I'm concern it doesn't matter what you call it we all know it means the same thing .
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 Posted 02/13/2019  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I see those all the time and a few more of approximately the same meaning. Lots of dealers use choice fine, choice exfine, etc. Just lots of ways to make you think the coin is better than just fine.
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 Posted 02/13/2019  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I prefer EF, I think because that's what I used as a kid 200 years ago.
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 Posted 02/13/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list

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So, is it a soda, a cola, or a pop?


Where I come from, it's just called a "cold drink."

I usually denote XF for extremely fine, but sometimes revert to EF if that's what the topic initiator (whether live or online) is using.

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I prefer EF, I think because that's what I used as a kid 200 years ago.


I always assumed that every coin was still uncirculated when the Frog was "Coin Tadpole"...
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 Posted 02/13/2019  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
I was under the impression that EF was the British grade and XF was the American grade.

In any case, I'm more familiar with XF (not really sure why), so I use that.
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 Posted 02/13/2019  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
I voted XF for the same reason that plus-sized T-shirts are labeled XL/XXL/XXXL and not EL/EEL/EEEL. It's just intuitive.
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 Posted 02/13/2019  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksammut to your friends list
I used to say EF, but after starting to deal with certified coins, I switched over to XF.
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 Posted 02/13/2019  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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And my favorite pop is Pepsi Cola
John gets it.

As to the topic, either is fine, but I prefer XF.
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 Posted 02/14/2019  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list
Well it seems like times truly have changed. Back in 2006 http://goccf.com/t/4008 , 56% said EF and 44% said XF. This poll currently shows 34% and 57%, respectively.

The tide has turned strongly in favor of XF, perhaps due to generational differences or the strong influence of PCGS and NGC using XF.
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 Posted 02/15/2019  03:01 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list

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...perhaps due to generational differences or the strong influence of PCGS and NGC using XF.


I think it has more to do with societal acceptance of using X to mean "extra" or "extreme." As Alpha said, using the X for clothing size purposes has become ubiquitous in the US. It branches into meal and beverage sizes, as well. So, in the US, X is the most widely understood representative of "extra."
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 Posted 02/15/2019  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
As previously mentioned EF is used in UK grading.
XF in US grading is more like VF/GVF over here.
Likewise a UK EF would probably get low AU in the US.
I don't have a problem with either.
I like the AU grade more than GEF or EF+ as it seems to me to sum it up nicely.
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 Posted 02/15/2019  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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I voted XF for the same reason that plus-sized T-shirts are labeled XL/XXL/XXXL and not EL/EEL/EEEL. It's just intuitive.

But when it comes to shoes wide sizes are E, EE, or EEE wide.

I feel that EF is the proper way to express it, but admit when I am writing itout I use XF because it is easier to make an X than an E.
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 Posted 02/15/2019  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I've always used EF and would rather than switch.
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 Posted 02/15/2019  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list

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But when it comes to shoes wide sizes are E, EE, or EEE wide.

The scale for shoe widths is letter-based -- those sizes are above B, C, and D. Unlike E/X for "extra" or "extremely", the shoe size letters don't stand for anything, they're representational. Apples, meet oranges.
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