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1846 Half Eagle: Natural, "Green Gold" Color

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It's hard to find appealing no-motto half eagles at a reasonable price. I was able to pick up this one and am pleased with it. I read in Doug Winter's books on US gold how many of the Southern mint coins have a "green gold" natural color. I think this piece shows what he is describing.
What do you think?

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I'm not sure what that term means, but you certainly have found an attractive coin!
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Eye appeal is phenomenal. I don't see any green tones in the image though.
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Nice coin! That's the lg. date, right? Was this one of those recovered from SS New York?
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Yes, large date variety. The small date is scarcer.
The coin isn't actually green. I think the description refers to a darker, less yellow-orange color compared to the "normal" bright color of most US gold. Presumably it's caused by the non-gold components of the alloy.
I'd agree with an AU grade, and problem-free.
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Decided to include this coin in my PCGS submission which was received at PCGS in January. It finally came back on 04/29 and I'm very surprised. I thought it was a lock for a problem-free AU, possibly as high as AU-55. I don't see any sign of cleaning and surfaces appear to have totally original color. What am I missing?
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The reverse looks like it may have been cleaned. To me
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I had a couple of high AU gold coins come back from PCGS AU Details Cleaned that were were head scratchers.
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'Green gold' is a term used by jewelers for gold / silver alloys.

The only modern coins that I know of that are alloyed with silver are the 22ct sovereigns and half sovereigns 1855-1868, of the Sydney Mint.
To my eye, such alloys do not look to have any green hue at all. Increasing amounts of silver in the gold alloy just turn the color increasingly a paler yellow.

Electrum of natural gold / silver alloy was used for the first coins of Asia Minor in the 6th Century BC.
Alloyed gold/silver was used for the staters of Carthage and pale gold Byzantine coins
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Boy, that's a tough result.
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