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Sunburst Die Clash - Mystery Solved!

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In our pursuit of quality certified coins - we noticed a really nice specimen of a 1892 Indian Head cent graded at PCGS MS64RB - However, upon closer inspection there were some die clash marks that were either overlooked or ignored. One looked like a sunburst right at the nose of the bust on the obverse. In addition, waves above the Indian headdress on the same side.

This intrigued us, for why so blatantly exhibited to the naked eye, wouldn't be in the evaluation's description. So we bought it. Meanwhile, our team started looking for other 1892 Indian Head cents that may have similar die clash markings. We began looking for other 1892 coins that did get the designation of die clash, and to our surprise we found several coins with the identical sunburst and waves. However, surprisingly not all were 1892 - interesting... We also found an 1865 Indian head with identical patterns. A die clash that transcended years? Perhaps an old die was reintroduced years later? Who knows?

Nevertheless, the odds of finding 4 examples of this die clash 126+ years later says to us - there are plenty out there. In short, folks, we may have found a new variety. However, before we get ahead of ourselves. We did find a designation of Die Clash R4RNB, but alas, it was a private inventory number, so back to square one.

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We were just talking about these the other day. Fairly common but they are cool looking.
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Attribution is a service offered by PCGS for a fee.
Same for errors.
Whichever you consider a die clash, you would have to request and pay to have it mentioned on the slab. Most people don't pay for it, and may not even notice it.
Its appearance over many years is not strange. When the dies clash, they typically clash the same way each time. The severity of the clash can vary, and the subsequent attempts by mint employees to "erase" it can vary, but the clash location and design is fairly consistent. (there is, of course, the rotated die clash but that is not the most common).
This is very notable on Morgan dollars from nearly every year where you can see clash marks to the left of the right portion of the wreath.
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It is a die clash. What you are seeing as a "sunburst" is the inner edge of the wreath and the back of the C in CENT.
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