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Very Odd Caracalla Bronze

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At 2.9 grams and 23mm this coin is very thin. It matches RIC 415c for legends and design, but not the weight. I have shown it to a couple folks, nobody really knows what it is, best guess is that it is a barbarous imitation/counterfeit with a possibility it was originally silvered to pass as an Antoninianus as it is roughly the correct diameter. Anyone else have any thoughts? It is a great mystery coin!


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It's clearly intended to be an as, as evidenced by the SC on reverse. An antoninianus would have a radiate crown. Lightweight contemporary casts of Severan bronzes are well-documented, the difference in weight representing the counterfeiter's profit margin.
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I knew that about the SC indicating it was an As, so did the folks I showed this to. The problem is that this coin is significantly thinner, and I find it hard to believe someone would be fooled by it. Also, the antoninianus was new, is it not possible counterfeiters weren't wholly aware of what they were doing? These were the same questions raised by the collector/dealer I showed the coin to. I'll look online for any images of contemporary Caracalla bronze imitations.

For reference.
This coin is approximately 0.5mm thick
The other Caracalla As I recently posted, is about 3mm thick. The difference is enormous.
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You may find the following article useful: George C. Boon, Light-weights and 'Limesfalsa', Numismatic Chronicle 7/5 (1965}, pp. 161-174. If you don't already have access to jstor through your institution or library, you can register free and read online.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/42662678
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Interesting, I learn something new here every day.
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Wow thanks for posting that! Great to learn something new here!
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These often seem to be referred to as "Cast in Gaul".

I have a Septimius Severus with similar characteristics.

Severus, Ae As - Cast? copying RIC 831
Obv:- SEVERVS PIVS AVG, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- VIRTVS AVGVSTOR, S-C, Roma seated left holding Victory and parazonium, shield behind
Minted in Rome. A.D. 202-210
Reference:- BMCRE 815. Cohen -. RIC 831 (rated Scarce)

Weight 4.45g. 21.60mm

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Pretty cool.
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Very interesting EF!

Looking through my collection it seems I have something veryyy similar weighing in at 5.72g


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