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Carbon Black Marks Effect On Grading (Peace Dollar)

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How much do marks like this effect the grading of these Peace dollars? Will this coin even grade without details?
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How much do marks like this effect the grading of these Peace dollars?


A lot!



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Will this coin even grade without details?


No.
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 Posted 02/25/2019  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Details coin for sure.



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Ugh I have no business buying raw coins!
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I think it is 50/50 on it coming back details strained. I think it is mint state and a nice coin. The strain/carbon/toning (don't know which from the pics) is not that distracting.
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Well I guess I'll send it in with the restoration fee. I did buy a second one just incase. I'm trying to put together a MS Peace dollar set. I'm buying some already graded, but I thought it would be more exciting to find raw ones that I could sens in myself. At least the graders at NGC will get a good laugh when I finally send in that box of noob collected Peace dollars. /:

Heres a picture of the other one. I'm sure it's been cleaned and is made of tin or something.


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the second one posted has been cleaned. I don't think i'd send the original coin in for anything. I would just put it in my collection or resell it. probably MS60/61 details
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I'm beginning to learn fast that Coin World is full of people selling their problems. I'm not sure I want to be apart of that at least knowingly.
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Second coin is cleaned harshly, would not be MS, but AU details.
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First one is MS-60 Details
Second one AU-55 Details
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Well slap me and call me Mr. Details!
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Yes, the fields on the second one appear to have been smoothed, although it might just be the blurry pics. Can you show us sharper ones?
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Well slap me and call me Mr. Details!


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Don't feel like the lone stranger on this! Want to see my silver stack? It's loaded with rookie/ebay mistakes. While it stinx, I have learned from my boo-boos! Yea, there are a lot of yo-yo's out there just waiting to pass their junk off. I just throw them in the melt bag and press on. Don't let this ruin your collecting fun/passion, just learn from it.
Cleaned coins are not all bad. I have filled a few holes in my collection with cleaned coins. MUCH cheaper than dropping a grand on a single coin. A polished coin looks good until I can find a good deal or save enough to buy an unmolested coin in the grade I want.
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MS-60 details
AU-55 details, cleaned
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Man, you guys are good. I did buy these off ebay and the pictures were from the sellers. When I got them in, the first one looked better than the picture and had some really great cartwheel, other than the staining it's a nice coin.
The second one had the bejesus cleaned out of it. I can't believe I fell for that picture.

I ended up sending both back, but giving the guy with the first coin a little cash for his time since it was my mistake.

Heres a real picture of the second one. I'm not sure how he got it to look so smooth on his post.


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Good, you returned them. Another Photoshop scammer. A reminder to never buy without full return privileges.
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