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Poland
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I am starting this topic in order to ask you about coins that I find at my local auctions. When identified as fakes, I'll add them to my fake coin photoset. First, these. Very dubious seller currently trying to sell only Chinese forgeries, State Quarters and these: Image:  1.jpg21.05 KB Image: 2.jpg35.9 KB Image: 3.jpg37.98 KB I don't suspect this one, but it's also there.. Image: 4.jpg39.28 KB Fake or not? Please reply. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The first three are all fakes (Quick hint. On these California fractional gold tokens, if it doesn't have a denomination (D, Dol, Doll, or Dollar) it is a fake. Also there are no genuine California fractionals with a bear on the back.)
Can't tell about the fourth one.
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Pillar of the Community
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Duly noted. Thanks for the explanation, Conder101!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5318 Posts |
All three are tourist pieces, and from what I've read, made in the 1950s or later.
While hard to describe, the obverse portraits are telling too. Portraits on the originals looked more like coins of their day.
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United States
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Man, that first one isn't even gold colored!  At least they spelled California correctly  |
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Poland
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I knew it would be easy. But what about the 4th one? Suddenly an original appeared among the fakes?
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United States
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4th one has genuine details, but most likely a fake since it came from the same seller. Only way to verify is to weigh and check dimensions.
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 United States
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I own several Fractional pieces certified. These are obvious replicas. As stated before, no bear was ever on a fractional. These are collectible tokens.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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At least they spelled California correctly DL20K....I hope you didn't get hoodwinked by this "seller" ? |
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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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No, no, don't get me wrong, I did not bid on these  But this seller provided me with 6 additions to my fakes photoset.. And now I know, there are no bears on fractional gold! Thanks  |
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United States
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Whew !.....good !.....  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If the prices were cheap enough it may have been a deal. At coin shows lately all kinds of fakes are being sold as fakes and some bring a decent price pending the quality. One Walker Half was obviously Lead but was selling for $5. From what I've seen lately I'm just wondering when there will be a grading system for fakes, a new Red Book called Price Guide for Counterfeits, Albums to put them in. |
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Quote:...I'm just wondering when there will be a grading system for fakes, a new Red Book called Price Guide for Counterfeits, Albums to put them in. I would suggest a name for that guide: The Lead Book: A Guide to Outsourced Coin Replicas. Edited by KurtS
08/13/2008 2:06 pm
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United States
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I would suggest a name for that guide: The Lead Book: A Guide to Outsourced Coin Replicas.
AAHHHH, and therefore the starting of the counterfeit, fake, replica grading system. GF=Good Fake. NC=Nice Counterfeit. GYWTO=Got You With This One. Naturally each one would have a negative number such as -4GF. If presented in a 2x2, they would have to be folded inside out.  |
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United States
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I would suggest a name for that guide: The Lead Book: A Guide to Outsourced Coin Replicas. AAHHHH, and therefore the starting of the counterfeit, fake, replica grading system. GF=Good Fake. NC=Nice Counterfeit. GYWTO=Got You With This One. Naturally each one would have a negative number such as -4GF. If presented in a 2x2, they would have to be folded inside out. Kurt, you should go ahead and 'squat' on that trademark! You might reap a small reward when (not if) Whitman decides to compile that book! |
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United States
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I recently sold a gold piece on ebay with a bear on the reverse for 50.00....the guy knew it was fake,but said he needed one for his collection.....so probably they are still worth something |
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Posted 08/12/2008 09:16 am
