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New Member
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Hi, I am new in this forum. But I am sure someone can help me to identify whether this coin is real or fake. : French Indo-China Piastre 1890 A  Any idea? Thanks Edited by srana 03/07/2019 10:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 srana Pretty much any time you post this kind of request here we usually ask is it attracted to a magnet? how much does it weigh? and what does the edge look like?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm skeptical because of the date so I'd be surprised if it was good silver and had the right weight.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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As it says in the legend, it should have exactly 27 grams of .900 fine sliver. That much silver equates to .7812 of an ounce of pure silver, (ASW). That is what Krause World Coins says
Therefore, it should weigh exactly 27 grams.
However, I think that this coin is a fake. Why? Because 1890 dated coins should have a gross weight of 27.215 grams, not 27.000 grams ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Krause reports that only 6,108 examples of the 1890 date were struck, and so should have a value of around $5,000 in the condition that is pictured here.
I think there is a possibility that it could be fake, the temptation to produce a high quality fake from .900 fine standard coin silver, is certainly there. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check the date area under high magnification for the possibility of a date altered coin, and compare die detail with known genuine example. will need a numismatic professional to do this.
Do NOT get it slabbed ! Take it to a professional first ! There is a possibility that a fake coin may end up being authenticated. That is bad for the reputation of the TPGrader. - They are really in the business of grading coins, not authenticating them.
It is also one of the reasons why I am always reticent to buy slabbed coins.
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United States
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Quote: That is bad for the reputation of the TPGrader. - They are really in the business of grading coins, not authenticating them. Huh?!?!?! Authentication of coins is exactly what they are exactly in the business for, hence the "guarantee" they provide on all slabbed coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yours looks like one of those many cheap knock-offs, but the smoking gun is on the reverse. The real coin actually has the numbers 27.215 on it, not just the 27 alone like the coin in the provided photo.
Edited by Albert 03/09/2019 10:49 pm
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 United States
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Quote: Authentication of coins is exactly what they are exactly in the business for, hence the "guarantee" they provide on all slabbed coins. Agreed. They grade and authenticate. They cannot do the former without doing the latter.
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New Member
 Australia
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Thanks everyone for your reply and valuable suggestion. I also agree that the coin is fake, because it is only 22 gram and the magnet doesn't slide slowly when I did magnet test. And the real coin (1890 A) shows 27.215 GR not 27 GR.
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