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Pillar of the Community
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I like it at MS-64RB too. Nice!
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Bedrock of the Community
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the coin I received seems fine to me.
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Pillar of the Community
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I thought the coins I received from them seemed fine as well, until I received them back from PCGS.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The coin I received has, besides nice color, full cartwheel luster and undisturbed mint flow lines on the surfaces as can be seen in the pictures. Not really familiar with cleaning methods that disturb the color, but leaves the surfaces intact. Recoloring cleaned coins may make the color look more natural but does not restore the surfaces of the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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I am simply presenting information based on facts. You are welcome to use them to assist you in your decision making. A quick look at the seller's buying and selling history presented the 3 below purchases which were obviously doctored and resold. The seller's (intentionally) lower grade photos are on the left. I am sure with enough time I could find where your coin came from as well. You can click on the photos for a slightly higher resolution to see the marked diagnostics identifying each as the same coin.   
Edited by indian_hoarder 03/20/2019 12:33 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's interesting. This coin looks like the coin in the seller's pictures, but not the coin I received. How do you suppose he got rid of the hits on the cheek and added the luster back on?
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Pillar of the Community
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If you got super lucky and he messed up and sent you the wrong coin / a better coin ... looking through his buys and sales, he had quite a few 1899s in the past few weeks. He bought this coin for $39 and sold for $55, so it wasn't logically intentionally swapped.
However, by his track record, the coin you received, if actually different, is still probably doctored. If your intent was always to just put it in a book, then I guess you're not out anything either way.
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh, and based on the original visual condition of the coin ... this guy is really good. Too bad he probably would never reveal his techniques. I have some problem coins I would love to enhance, but without the nefarious purpose.
Edited by indian_hoarder 03/20/2019 03:12 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice detective work—that's definitely the same coin as in the seller's picture, and definitely not the one that was shipped. That's a pretty remarkable improvement in the appearance. And those nicks on the cheek could disappear with judicious lighting.
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the seller did send the wrong coin. Here's the listing of the 1899 IHC he shipped by mistake. Terrible photos, but all the markings are there. 163587703945
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Bedrock of the Community
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Certainly a minefield out there. It's odd that s/he is so good at doctoring coins but cannot take decent pictures for ebay listings. Seller does offer a 14 day return policy so it seems like a reasonable risk.
Edited by numismatic student 03/20/2019 08:51 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I would surmise that the poor photos are part of the scheme to help avoid detection that these are resold coins after being doctored.
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Rest in Peace
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Precisely . 
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