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1885 Jubilee Head Soroveign?

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A guy contacted me in order to evaluate two gold coins. One of then was the one you can see in the picture. According to him it weights 8g, what would be right. He also said it was once pawned, and that at the time the metal was tested. It would be fine, that is if the Jubilee Head seen hadn't been introduced until 1887, two years after the date of the coin. What could this coin be? I guess most likely a mistake from a forger, but I would like to hear your thoughts. Maybe a tooled date? (sorry for the bad pic, but that's what I've got to work with)
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 Posted 03/16/2019  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Giovanni Miceli Puperi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since posting this I've found a similar one: http://goccf.com/t/269406
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As discussed in the link, I think this is a jeweller's copy and they got the date wrong. Most of these are made in 9Ct instead of 22Ct Gold. If you went to a good jewellers they may have the Xray machine that can confirm the gold content - which is all it is worth.
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Fake British sovereigns were also manufactured in Beirut in quite large numbers in the 1950s, which led to The Royal Mint in London resuming the striking of genuine sovereigns as bullion coins in 1957.
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Thanks for that info.



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Agree that it's a forgery. 8g is a little too heavy as well.
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Wrong date for type, therefore a jeweler's copy.
All details are indistinct. (mushy)
Nevertheless, at 8 grams it could well have a gold purity close to genuine.

Beirut often forged sovereigns at near to genuine purity, so that they could still be traded at their gold bullion value. With the good international reputation of of the British gold sovereign at stake, the British Government decided to flood the market with genuine sovereigns, all dated 1925.
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Thank you all for the feedback, that's an interesting story after all!
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