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Opinions On This ICCS Graded 1938 Silver Dollar

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Hello all,
I recently purchased this 1938 silver dollar, ICCS graded (I will reveal what it is graded after I get your opinions) and I believe it is fraudulently been replaced with a different coin. If you could please give me your opinions on what you would grade this coin, I'd appreciate it, then I will post a picture of the grading card.
Thanks!
Sean
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 Posted 03/30/2019  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeit, did you buy from a foreign seller?
Perhaps the holder is also counterfeit.
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Why do you say counterfeit? I think it is a legit coin, just of a lower grade than it was purported to be.
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Would you please post a picture of the full coin both sides.
Hard to grade a coin from partial pictures.
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Certainly can, here you go :)
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Looks AU-58 in these photos.
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I'm thinking somewhere around an EF-46 with slight cleaning.
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Some of the letters in the obv. legend look off to me. Left leg of the M as well as the I's.
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Really? I must be off on my grading then- what about the wear around the rim and the flattening of the denticles almost all the way around, not to mention the rim nick and fingerprint above the G in Georgivs? I would rate this coin at VF30 at best.
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AU58
The flattening of rim and denticles is quite common on these dollars even in mint state, it is a result of weak strike not wear.
Rim nicks and fingerprints do not affect the grade of circulated coins, their grade is strictly a function of wear.
The first points of wear for these dollars are the eyebrow, cheek and edge of ear. These points show only the slightest wear on your coin.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Ok, I guess this is a learning experience for me. Thank you for all of your comments. Good news for me though I guess
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Honestly, I was going to say MS62 to 63 when you first posted.

It's fine.......relax.

If that coin is a VF, then I'm the King of England.
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ICCS - The world's last surviving 20th century grading company.



to the CCF!
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can we see the auction number..?
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Show us the seal on the flip, that's the money shot.
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