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Small Medieval Coin To ID

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 Posted 04/04/2019  10:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dionysos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Quite small coin (13.5mm, 0.61g). As far as I know, this should be a "Maille Tournois" but from who ?

Obverse: IOHANNES DE AELB (?)
Reverse: MONETA NOVA RE (?)

It's not Jeanne of Merwede (most common for the type)... Jean of Pyrmont ? Minted in Reckheim ? Did not find anything conclusive...

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That looks like good detective work thus far. I don't know this type, but we have many regulars here from Belgium, so maybe someone will recognize it.

As you say, Jeanne would be JOHANNA, and this coin looks like JOHANNES, so it should be a John. John IV was Duke of Brabant in the early 1400s, so this could be a possibility? Though I expect the legend on his coins would say JOHANNES D G DVX BRABANTIE ... perhaps with some abbreviations on such a small coin
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Thanks tdziemia

Not that much info on these online. They usually are barely identifiable at best, worn and with only part of the legends legible. This one is quite clear, but doesn't match anything I could find.

The only credible source of info I've found is this small table taken from a Kunker catalog. Other than Jean de Pyrmont, nothing come close. But IOHANNES DE AELB = Jean de Pyrmont ? Not sure
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It seems likely to me your guess is correct. MONETA NOVA RE on the reverse certainly points to Reckheim mint.

On the obverse legend, the Kunker reference shows that, if nothing else, there is a lot of variety to how this is constructed for these types. The first entry in that table for Jean de Pyrmont, could be a match, but yours in better condition with a full legend?

Still not sure if the second part of that obverse legend is DE or DG (both appear in the Kunker table). On AELB, LB could be for Limbourg?



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