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 Posted 08/19/2008  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel the same as you Morgan.......
But the possible reality of putting myself or other loved ones at risk and losing my coins was the reason I keep 90% of my collection in 3 large safety deposit boxes down at the bank.
In the bank they are "flood water free", "fireproof" (your safe is fire resistant for what 25 minutes ?), "thief proof", dry/humidity free area, and other reasons too......yeah it's inconvenient, but that outweighs the "safe keeping" IMHO......

It's nice that we all believe we'd turn into Sylvester Stallone or Arnold, or Bruce Willis, or Batman and be able to open the safe in front of an intruder who is watching you very carefully with a gun to your childs head and grab your loaded gun from inside the safe, and get some kill shots into his body (and not getting your wife or child shot by you on accident or the intruder shooting them).......
This seems like a brilliant plan !........NOT ! ...
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 Posted 08/19/2008  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think one needs to realize that where I live, I am ten times more likely to be struck dead by lightning than to be the victim of a home invasion. It is a readily available statistic and I encourage everyone to research the criminal reports in their area of residence!

Trust me, where I keep my family is more important than where I keep my coins, especially since the boy won't fit in the bank deposit box! If home invasion was really an issue, I would choose a new place to live. It is for this reason I will never live in the Chicago area ever again! (Sorry, Just Carl!)

I should add that what is really important in all of this discussion is that Eaglefoot is thinking of his family!
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08/19/2008 4:52 pm
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 Posted 08/19/2008  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganNoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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especially since the boy won't fit in the bank deposit box!


Don't they have some bigger boxes? yea, he will out grow them all eventually, but until then, just upgrade!


I understand what everyone is saying, and if I had any "WOW!" coins, I would probably keep them/some of them in the bank, but I just can't collect something if I only get to enjoy it during bankers hours. And I have coins out and the gloves on almost every night, sorting, stapling, adding to an album, doing something. Maybe someday when if I an organised enough I will find some that I don't need around, and I will put them in a SDB, but until then I need them around, they give me something to do.
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 Posted 08/19/2008  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your coins are in a safety deposit box, do you ever look at them? Or do they stay there for months on end?
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 Posted 08/19/2008  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...my family is more important than where I keep my coins, especially since the boy won't fit in the bank deposit box!

Exactly. If somebody ever gets to the point of directly threatening your family, all you want to do is defuse that situation. Of course, if they came there not for your coins, but to hurt your family, I think that's another matter that calls for a quick decision--heroics if necessary. Personally I might not hesitate to use anything to solve that situation.
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 Posted 08/19/2008  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya know, if someone wants what you have, its almost impossible to stop it. I DID want to stop the common burgular (or meth addict around here) by allowing him/her to take the TV's and the radios and what-not, but to have no choice but to leave the safe. With the addition of the contents, I think it comes in at around 900 to 1000 lbs. The person that can get that out of the house, I don't want to mess with anyway!.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A safe is a good idea.

An insurance rider would nicely compliment the safe.

The talk of gun-play is just plain silly.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
acidic1- Very nice! I should invest in one of those.

P.S. Very nice collection of Mystery Science Theater VHS tapes!
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 Posted 08/20/2008  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bank vault doors are cheap if you bide your time. Make your own vault. Better yet, buy a bank building.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spins me out when I read posts with people saying keep a handgun loaded in the safe, or keep one next to your bed etc. etc.

Handguns are illegal here unless you belong to a gun club, or are licensed to have one for your work. Even then the gun and ammo has to be kept in two separate, locked boxes inside a safe. It also has to be registered, and the police have the right to turn up at your door to make sure you comply with all the laws and regulations. Except on the hip of a police officer, I have never even seen one.

And I think with a safe that size, you don't have too much to worry about. Your run of the mill burglar isn't going to get it open, or be able to take it. The problem will occur if someone does break in, they may come back latter better prepared.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IIRC, OZ paid people to turn in guns a few years back. Predictably, the crooks kept theirs, and crime rates skyrocketed.

Speaking of big safes, one of my customers in the 60s had an old Wells Fargo safe in his garage, which was built around it. It was about 7' tall and 5' on a side, and had about a cubic foot of storage. It's prolly still there, since you'd have to dismantle the grudge to get it out.
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 Posted 08/20/2008  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I regret not buying a section of lock boxes. 100 boxes, mostly 5x5, but a couple of 10x10 and about a dozen 5x10. Not only nearly impossible to move, but it would take forever to open them, and they could be used for sorting.
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 Posted 08/21/2008  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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OZ paid people to turn in guns a few years back. Predictably, the crooks kept theirs, and crime rates skyrocketed


Actually, crime rates fell, and have continued to do so every year since. Crime stats released this week show burglaries are down over 40% in the last 5 years.

Couple that with our TOTAL homicide rate of less than 400 people per year for the whole country, with firearms accounting for only 16% of that number and still falling, compared to 44% in 1968 before gun control began, and I would say it was a wise decision.

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 Posted 08/21/2008  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Some types of crime increased the first year, but the long-term effect is down.

Doesn't change the fact that properly placed firepower lowers the recidivism rate to zero.
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 Posted 08/21/2008  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Spins me out when I read posts with people saying keep a handgun loaded in the safe, or keep one next to your bed etc. etc.
Before entering college, I worked in a hunting store where we sold guns for hunting as well as handguns. After that experience, I have my doubts whether a handgun makes the average household any safer from intruders. Here, a police officer is trained to draw his weapon only when the situation calls for it--and to ultimately prevent further harm. There are probably notable exceptions to the average handgun owner, but I doubt many have any training to make proper judgment calls. Unlike driving a car, no training or education is required. So after waiting 10 days (in CA), the average buyer takes home their gun and may get some practice, but ultimately hopes that simply pointing a gun at an intruder will make their family safe. I have my doubts it works that way.
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