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Chinese Dollar Tael Coins

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 Posted 04/09/2019  2:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add spacefury65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greetings to All: I'm new and very uninformed regarding Chinese Dollar coins. I recently acquired a large quantity of these silver dollar sized coins and believe them to be fake by all of the info I have read. Most if not all genuine coins weight 26-26.9 grams. The ones I have weight 29.9-31.9 with the slightly larger coins weighing at 36.0 and 37.0 .

None are magnetic. I picked a few out at random to acid test. The acid turned a teal color and didn't stay a dark brown-red color. For this I believe they aren't silver. However, they could be plated or a silver over nickel variety thus no magnetism.

I know the post is long, but due to the 50 or so varieties I have with such intricate work on them, I can't fathom that all are fakes.

I have put a few in a picture to show what some are.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If real your talking $$$$$$$$ for these Chinese coins. They are the most widely faked and the Chinese are even making these in actual silver. No thanks to any raw Chinese coins honestly.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wont attest to the validity of the pieces, but just about everyone is available

@ the army surplus store downtown, for $4. Yes, some contain silver.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/09/2019  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spacefury65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the early information. I personally don't think they're real, because good things don't happen to me and because of the steps I already took. I'm so amazed that someone would go to such extremes in the intricate work on some of them. I can understand the quick bang out of the FatBoy pieces because there's nothing to them other than writing and a head.. Considering the wear (man made or not) and oxidation (tarnished or whited silver plating) on some of the others, coupled from where I got them, I strongly believe they were made around the 1940s and not done anytime in recent history. I have roughly 60 varieties (all different). I'm sure someone would buy as a ready-made collection for say 5-6 each. Saw some posted as "Chinese Lucky Coin".
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 Posted 04/09/2019  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, yeap I think all very clearly fakes. All are modern fakes as to want era that is a tad hard but ill be guessing early 2000s.

I doubt they (chinese) would be faking coins with actual silver, unless there is huge premium for the coin.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spacefury65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with you, but for one thing I know to be certain: I had seen these very coins that I now possess in the 1970s in a book they were housed in. So early 2000s cannot be accurate. If they (Chinese) used silver, I could get scrap for them :) I found another posting that stated "in 1949 re-strikes of the original coins using low grade silver over nickel-steel was used." Will check into that more too. Thanks for everyone's help so far..
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 Posted 04/11/2019  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why should they even be silver when it could be lead arsenic alloy?

Unfortunately they are all replicas. If any were genuine, any would be easily 5 figure+ coins.
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 Posted 04/12/2019  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spacefury65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gxseries: as I stated at the beginning of the thread, I thought they were fake by the characteristics they exhibited (weight wrong and acid test failure). I found an old posting from 2011 that stated they were 1949 re-strikes of the original coins using low grade silver over nickel-steel. From my testing I think its more like silver plate over any ore they could find. I'm sure there are people out there that collect individual (no doubles) coins/tokens to display. Thanks for your input as well :)
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 Posted 04/13/2019  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sprag to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would recommend to have them graded and authenticated by a respected Numismatic CO. such as NGC or PCGS or ANAC. Best of luck!
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 Posted 06/05/2019  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeyce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes all are fake. I'm sorry. As others have stated Chinese silver coins are some of the most faked coins in the world. If you don't know how to determine between them don't buy unless graded by the top three and check the certificates and slabs are being faked at times too. These are poor quality fakes. Many new ones are silver and high quality.

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 Posted 06/05/2019  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coffeyce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will add I also suggest you look at real examples of a coin your interested in and compare it.



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