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All I Can Say Is... Fishy

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When I wrote for an explanation and a resolution of the contradictory and incorrect information in the listing (in case it was a real but worn Ellis Island commemorative silver dollar), the seller wrote back, "I don't want to sell it to you."

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233189184279

Title: 1906~P ~ELLIS ISLAND~ COMMEMORATIVE ~SILVER ONE DOLLAR ~MEDALLION~ COIN ~

Country/Region of Manufacture: China
Mint Location: New York
Year: 1906
Composition: CLAD


Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that if it's not the real thing, it's an illegal counterfeit, since there's no disclaimer on the coin. The seller's reply didn't inspire confidence, so I reported it to ebay.


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It's fake
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 Posted 04/18/2019  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why am I not surprised?

Has anyone else read the Borges story "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius"? I'm realizing that everything in real life now has a fake version.
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Quote:
Country/Region of Manufacture: China


Ummm....

Kinda says where it was made
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If I'm not mistaken, the first thing they teach you in counterfeiting school is to be sure you use the correct date...
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The surface texture is way off for a 33 year old coin. I would expect that look of say, a Peace dollar.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  01:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Kinda says where it was made"

But it also says "Mint Location: New York."
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Ahhh...makes it sound real now. Forgot about the coins from the New York Mint
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"I don't want to sell it to you."


He won't be selling them to anyone soon.
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These "medallions/tokens" are everywhere. Ridiculous dates, weird denominations, OBVIOUS in description and picture that it is not meant to be a real (and thus counterfeit) coin. WAY different than the pretty real looking China fakes

Love the chin on George

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GEORGE-WAS...100752.m1982
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The important questions are "Are they sold out at the mint?", and "Does it make a great gift?"
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It's finally gone. The NY Mint must have recalled it.
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It's finally gone. The NY Mint must have recalled it.





Nice one!
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Could have bought one last week for $1.55 shipping included...from Thailand

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1906-LIBER...AOSw6HJcpBzl

darn...missed it
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I didn't realize that they made U.S. coins in China ! , they are supposed to be made by the U.S. Mint, in the U.S.
- Or perhaps this one was made in China.
(just kiddin')

With a date of 1906, (numismatically) there is no attempt to deceive, except for those who are too lazy to check, or are too gullible,
therefore still legal, within ebay rules.
Strange looking "O" Probably used an original coin to set up high pressure or centrifugal cast molds.

No radial mint luster, and design detail not sharp, despite showing no signs of wear.
Check for weight, magnetism, comparative ring pitch against a known genuine example.

A problem with ebay:- can't do these checks in hand before submitting a bid, when it comes to numismatic fakes.
Helps to explain why so many fakes are attempted to be sold in this way.
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