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1856 3 Dollar Gold - Grade Please

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I am about to send this in for grading and would like your opinions on grade and condition. I know the pics are not that great but here they are. Note: the scratch under the chin is very slight and superficial - the way that the light caught it makes it look worse than it is.


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Many small dings and small scratches in the fields, combined with slight flatness in the hair detail under Lib's ear that indicate wear,
makes me inclined to think hat this coin will come back graded
AU55.

A well struck example.
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The detail is high AU. There are signs it was cleaned but hopefully you'll get a market-acceptable grade.
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AU Details Cleaned
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AU55-58, not cleaned, and I love the double profile!
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AU-58 straight, just mishandled over the years.
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AU-58
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My first pictures may have been misleading ... I darkened up the photos to get rid of the glare and show the detail a little better. Here is the actual look. Personally I think it has been cleaned. I just posted one side of the original coin color.


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You've got a 163 year old gold piece. There is a high likelihood it has been cleaned because cleaning coins was a common, normal, acceptable practice right up to the middle of the 20th century.

The question is whether or not it was harshly or improperly cleaned. I don't see a harshly cleaned coin in the images. Improperly cleaned is a judgement call and very subjective.

Your second image has a lot of light on the coin but my guess is it would have a 50/50 chance of straight grading as market acceptable.

Good luck!
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Thanks all for your input.. I will be sending it in this week and will post the results. I hope it gets a straight grade too.
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If genuine, it might slab at MS-61.
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Finally got it back from TPG (NGC) - it took over 3 weeks.
I was quite pleasantly surprised that they gave it a straight grade MS62.
Thanks all for your input.





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Congrats, a super example!
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Nice. If it were me, I would send to CAC.
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Very nice! I had my doubts originally because the first pics showed a lack of luster. The slab pictures show a beauty of a coin!
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John, congratulations! The NGC pics really make the old gal pop to life! I love all $3 gold but they are really nice to behold in MS.
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