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Pillar of the Community
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I'll give it a try. MS66PL
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Bedrock of the Community
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photos not that great to see actual surfaces but I have it at least MS66 and maybe MS67, most likely PL. nice piece
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Rest in Peace
United States
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No guesses on the date double I'm guessing the date has minor doubling as most if not all obverse dies for 1880 are listed as such. We would need very good close-ups to even begin to attribute. However, if you are referring to the bright areas under the date digits that is also present below the stars, this is not doubling. It is an artifact from the minting process that leaves these areas with a surface that is impervious to the toning process. On most original bag toned Morgans you will notice that these areas did not tone. This is commonly referred to as pull-away (toning) |
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd say it might make MS-66. Looks close to PL, but probably not enough mirror on the obverse.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll say 66PL. Killer coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hypothetically, lets say this is a 64 or a 65 no PL, do you guys think it has a shot at reconsider? Chance loosing the CAC bean?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ok...quit beating around the bush and adding on more qualifiers...... TELL us the coins current grade.
Could it be reconsidered for an upgrade? Sure. Will it upgrade and retain the CAC sticker? I doubt it.
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Pillar of the Community
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They told me I have to wait 48 hours :( last time I let one go early LOL
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Hypothetically, lets say this is a 64 or a 65 no PL, do you guys think it has a shot at reconsider? Chance loosing the CAC bean? My guess is a solid 65, I don't see it going higher than that but you could try. If it's 64 or lower, then for sure might be worth losing the bean. As far as PL, I don't see it but better pictures might show it to be. If it's 65 as I guessed, then it's a nice solid coin with CAC, a great addition for sure. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like pull away toning on the date? Nice coin with that frosty San Fran look. I'm also at 65.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The 48-hour waiting period is hardly a rule, but I think it's a good idea.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Now this is what I'm talking about! Your coin is a prime example of why the Morgan is one of America's most beautiful coins. Fantastic eye appeal.
The cheek hit hurts. It is just a bit too heavy for a 66. It could be lighting, but the obverse mirror depth looks like it comes up a little short of being prooflike. I'm at obverse MS 65. Oh the reverse, though. What a spectacularly beautiful reverse. I'm at reverse MS 66 PL. That leaves me with a blended grade of MS 65+, what the old school folks like me once called Gem BU SPL.
Your coin is one of the many times where the adage "buy the coin, not the grade" is absolutely accurate. The eye appeal outruns the technical grade. Your resale market won't be sight unseen buyers. It will be collectors who want and recognize a beautiful coin. You would very likely realize a price above the technical grade from a collector.
Regardless of the PCGS numerical, I wouldn't crack and resubmit. On a common date like 1880-S, the swing from 64 to 65 to 66 is running around $40-$50 per grade level, with a moderate decline this year in PCGS 66 prices. I'm not a fan of CAC stickers, but the price bump for them is real on Morgans, and seems to run about $25 on average. If you gained a number and lost the sticker, you would be about break-even on the cost of submission.
Again, really beautiful coin.
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