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 Posted 08/26/2008  12:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MorganNoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Now, I know that everyone says that the PCGS online price guide is slightly high. I have heard a few people mention Coin World's Coin Values magazine as a good price guide.

Well, in looking at my July issue (I can't find my sept. issue) it has the 1938 D/D Buffalo worth $75 in MS-60, where PCGS has it at $20. A rather significant difference I would say. What do you think is correct?
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 Posted 08/26/2008  05:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kabiye_Lady to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both! In short, it depends who you're buying from and what you think it is worth!

Another example: 1939-S Jeffereson Nickel in MS-60: Numismedia dot com - $13.80, August Coin Values - $30.

Probably the most wise advice I ever got about coin prices was NOT which one to use, but rather to make sure you were using at least TWO when pricing coins.

In addition, my dealer uses Coin Values - especially for common date, circulated stuff. So I can pretty much know what to expect before I go into the store.

So, I would say the seoond wisest bit of advice is to know WHICH price guide the seller is looking at.
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 Posted 08/26/2008  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismedia doesn't show it at all, but lists the d/s at $55.
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 Posted 08/26/2008  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just remember that there are no manufacturer's list prices on coins to go by. With a toaster, for example, a manufacturer may say the value is $30. However, most stores will sell it for less and how much less is the same as the price guides your discussing. The difference is I don't think anyone would go over the $30 for that toaster whereas with a coin the sky is the limit. A Dime could sell for $0.01 to a Million or even higher. Any coin is worth only what someone will pay for it. So price guides are all just that, GUIDES.
They are usually based on what someone thinks coins are worth and in many instances these people should be predicting the weather or selling used cars. The Red Book is another joke in pricing coins. Since that book is produced almost a year in advance, the prices are based on Whitman Publishers ability to read the future. The PCGS web site's price list is basically high to possibly incurage people to send in coins for slabbing and grading. They wouldn't do that if the coin is worth only a few dollars so these prices are inflated so you think you've got a winner.
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 Posted 08/26/2008  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup!
These are all guides, thats all. Some are updated more often than others. Some weigh recent auction prices more than others, etc. Check your price in 3 or more.

Have fun!
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 Posted 08/26/2008  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganNoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses everyone. One other follow up question, Where does one get a Graysheet?
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Agree, the PGCS guide is just a reference guide which give you a very broad idea of the value of your piece. Actually, some of their prices (Early Bust Half Dollars, etc.) are very low compared to actual purchases seen elsewhere on the net and for key dates their guide 'at times' vary quite a bit...

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Two comments:

1. When you look at the PCGS guide, that is for their slabbed coins and not what you have in your set. A lot of people use this site as a trick to have people pay more for a coin than what it is worth, so be careful.

2. Just Carl reminded me of a story a co-worker I had years ago told me: his first job was in a warehouse where they packaged different items and sent them off to retail stores. The funny part was that they would take the same item and have three different packages for it and send it to three different places. These items would then sell for a wide range and no one was the wiser, I just felt bad for the one buying it at Dillard's for $100 when it was at a discount store for $5. Some times I feel the same way about coins, enough lights, fancy package and behind locked glass makes that coin seem more priceless than it really is. You just need to always research something before you buy it and when you do pay too much for it, make sure that you really wanted it (we all have at least one coin like this).
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 Posted 08/27/2008  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS, in my experience, is high on common dates, and low on key dates.
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Some times I feel the same way about coins, enough lights, fancy package and behind locked glass makes that coin seem more priceless than it really is.

Coin dealers are lousy at merchandising.

Take proof coins for example.

Here we have a limited production item, specially made to the highest standards, as a presentation to visiting royalty.

So is each set in a display case with its own spotlight?

No, they're in a carboard box, coins not even visible in the original shipping boxes, often being sold for less than issue price.

Meanwhile, the art gallery a block down the street is selling "art" that consists of baby crap on a framed sheet, for thousands of dollars.
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"Meanwhile, the art gallery a block down the street is selling "art" that consists of baby crap on a framed sheet, for thousands of dollars."

too true
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 Posted 08/27/2008  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganNoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1. When you look at the PCGS guide, that is for their slabbed coins and not what you have in your set. A lot of people use this site as a trick to have people pay more for a coin than what it is worth, so be careful.


I realize this, and rarely will I pay PCGS price for a raw coin, but in the scenario above, it is the opposite by over 300%...
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biggfred, I've come to appreciate your wit and knowledge. I assume your not the kind of guy to really give a rats bum what others might think of you, all the better. I don't remember the last time I laughed so hard.
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Thanx! I try to say what I feel needs to be said, hopefully with enough humor to make it go down easier.
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