International Ebay Sale Extortion

Then the total price of the coin was $25, no different than if the coin had been $25 with free shipping. You accepted that, yet still decided that you were entitled extort a partial refund after the fact. As far as I am concerned, that is extortion.

Personally I have free shipping on my items, I include the price of the shipping, packaging and my time into the listing price. The reason I started doing that was to avoid this exact scenario.

If I were selling a $12 proof set, I would charge $13.99 to make me whole on the ebay and paypal fees, plus $3 shipping, which covers my first class package postage (plus fees). That gives me a more attractive price ($16.99 vs. $20) to potential customers, and reduces the risk of customer dissatisfaction about my shipping and handling cost to zero.

But I don't need to pay myself for my time (because I am just a hobbyist), which seems to be a sticking point in this discussion.

That's assuming domestic shipping, this was international. $20 w/ free shipping vs $12 w/ $8 shipping are equivalent in my book. The money you spend doesn't change just because it's allocated differently. When you buy a listing you agree to pay the full amount. Still looks like extortion to me, buyer should be ashamed of themself.

No they are not,
ebay finalized the case in my favor well, see message from ebay below
" ebay opened a case because of an issue with an item purchased from you. We reviewed the case and have decided to issue the buyer a refund of AU $25.00 without any impact to you.

This case is now closed. You're not required to reimburse the buyer or ebay, and this case won't be counted in your seller performance evaluation."
I have not engaged in any illegal practice with my postage charges, you have lied about the how much extra the charge was versus the "stamp" cost
if you want free postage, purchase items from your own country, I often send low value coins locally for no charge
you say all I have to do is throw it into an envelope and throw it into the post system but you neglect to mention that all international postage sent from Australia requires custom declarations to be completed and entered into the computer system at deposit of postal item. a process that takes more than the 5 minutes you attribute to it.
I am , as per ebays policy, allowed to charge a postage and HANDLING fee
this is the minimum I charge for any international. if you purchased 10 coins like this it would have been the same amount as I offer combined shipping.

But the fact is you purchased an item for an agreed amount delivered
you got the item then asked for a discount threatening negative feedback if you didn't get it
that make you a fraud, anyone who changes the terms of any agreement after the other party has satisfied their end of the agreement is someone not to be trusted

This is what ebay do, they eat the cost to keep everyone happy.

I would highly recommend you include the postage&handling fees in the cost and offer free shipping at least for international shipping. It would avoid this scenario happening again.

@Andy Herkimer Yes, that's what ebay does but they also told me what he did IS indeed against ebay seller rules. And with all respect, NO, I did not willingly pay $25 + free ship. As I said, you see it from your perspective, I see it differently. And you suggestion to the seller is much more upright and should have been done from the beginning. I would never have paid $25 for a 'Filler' coin. If the seller was gracious and didn't hide behind the misunderstanding, he could simply have issued the refund and be done with it. And if he felt I was too demanding as a buyer, then he could have blocked me without it coming to this.

Oh, and last time I looked, the Neg FB stands. If ebay ruled it was unjustified, they would have already removed the Neg. If in the near future they do, then I'll know ebay could care less and I'll be much more cautious. I guess I've dealt with so many decent sellers, that I didn't see this one coming. Lesson learned.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1883-Br...223413303901

good point btw, I let my family get in the way of me getting ebay to remove the 1st and only negative feedback I have received, I will put 30 minutes aside to contact them and get it done tomorrow.
"And if he felt I was too demanding as a buyer, then he could have blocked me without it coming to this."
if you had told me when you made an offer for the coin that you wanted it posted for free I would have, again the issue is that you waited until I fulfilled my end of our contractual agreement to indicate that you wanted a FURTHER discount and you used your feedback as leverage against me
that is unethical behavior.
like I said in my message to you when I found out you had left negative feedback
"Good luck with your life, you will need it behaving like this"
but dont worried you are blocked now by me and a few others in Australia

The basis of the issue is that the buyer "was expecting some sort of expidited shipping"

Yet the listing clearly stated

"Standard International Flat Rate Postage"




I am with you all the way on that.