International Ebay Sale Extortion

Thanks guys, I'm off to bed now
Hopefully ebay will see reason like the members here and remove the dishonest feedback from my account

I agree. It appears to be a misunderstanding on the part of the buyer.

@Jadey No, that's not quite it. I expected 'shipping cost' justification for the charge, not to be told that part of what I paid for shipping was to go to pay the seller's ebay & Paypal fees when I asked why I paid $10.00 and the stamp says $3.00. That is the crux of my argument and when called out on it, the seller would not refund the difference between the true shipping cost and what I paid. He still had $2.00 to cover his valuable time of 2 minutes which works out to $60/hour. People here as well as the seller are missing the whole point. Maybe there are more sellers who practice this that I know of since this is the first I've heard of it in 10 years. I guess I never would have thought. Besides, every coin that has been shipped to me in the past, the cost was 100% justified shipping costs whether it be standard or with tracking, not used to cover the seller's fees. He even admits that putting the fees into the coin price would make the listing less attractive. So this was clearly a purposeful action on the sellers part as much as it was a misunderstanding and a bad assumption on my part.

I agree. I once purchased a poker chip set for game night, 99 cents with $56 shipping, was still cheaper than the same set at $59.99 buy it now with free shipping. The break down of costs is semantics.

If the Buyer had read and understood the T&C of the Seller BEFORE buying the item he would have been better off. The Buyer tried to change the rules, not the Seller. Read and understand everything before you agree and sign on to something. It's not rocket science. Business 101.

Trying to change the rules after the game started does not work. It's not supposed to.

Good chance the Buyer is gonna find himself on a few more BBL's because of this little stunt.

@westernsky - This was not a stunt, I could care less about the money. It was all about non-disclosure in case I haven't made that clear enough. In 10 years, this is the only seller who told me the shipping fees were for ebay's fees. I contacted him reasonably and asked him to explain. He could also have easily removed his fees that the buyer is not expecting to pay and then change his future listing or send a message as he has only NOW thinking of doing. As I said, this thread is all about shooting the messenger, nothing more.

@TaeKenDo
I can understand you wanting some justification for the shipping cost, but that has to happen before the purchase IMO. Once you have agreed to the terms of the sale, and the terms of the sale are fulfilled, there are really no grounds for formal complaint.

I recently bought a used Cherry Pickers Guide off ebay, and the seller charged something ridiculous like $15 for shipping. I remember being perturbed by that, because I knew it would only cost about $5 to ship. I complained to myself plenty that I did not like the practice, but I don't feel I had any grounds for an official complaint. The bottom line was that the seller was offering the best price + shipping that I could find.

@Jadey Thanks for some comprehension. But unlike you, I didn't know hw much the Actual shipping cost was until I received the package. Nor that some of the shipping cost was helping the buyer maintain his business which is Not shipping or handling. I am patient and graceful and would have accepted even a couple of dollars or a credit (although probably would never have used it), simply as an acknowledgement from the seller. What I got was blame & accusations, and now slander. You can check my feedback I leave for sellers, even when the coins I receive are sub-par compared to the photos. I suck it up and never leave Neg FB. This guy's attitude and resistence just hit me the wrong way and I reacted. But after all this, no regrets whatsoever with the FB. Hope it stays and he changes his practices. I hope all sellers here think and learn they are not above the buyer but because the hide behind a disclaimer. As I said, and you can fault me for that, this was not an issue of money, it was principal. He had more than one chance to make things fair for both of us, he chose not to and then justify himself by attacking my integrity publically when my reputation as a buyer speaks for itself and is untarnished.

Almost no one can say they have never had an issue with a buyer or seller. The opportunity was given to rectify and he chose not to even budge an inch. I will in the future not take any sellers, their listings or their selling tactics for granted because just as you think you've seen it all, another one surprises you. Enjoy the thread.