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Need Help With 1854 O Seated Liberty Half Dollar

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I bought this yesterday and noticed a strange mark or error on left side on the first star can anyone tell me what is up with it?
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It's a Cud
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Very nice example of a Cud, congrats!



to the CCF!
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Post pics of the whole coin. Front and back. How much did you pay?
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Looks to be XF Details Polished
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Yes it is called a Cud and it happens during the minting process. The dies used to strike the coin become worn and break. You can also see a raised line running from that Cud through the adjacent stars. That is an example of a die break. Some collectors (like me) really like them and think they're neat. Others may avoid them and look for clean examples. It's a personal preference. It's good to have one in your collection for reference. Nice find!
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I paid 55
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Check that VF Details Harshly Cleaned
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That is a VLDS die marriage with that Cud. It is die marriage WB-12 and with the VLDS has a rarity of R6 (est. of 13-30 examples) It is worth more than an average 1854 O Half Dollar due to it's rarity and worth holding onto.
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to the CCF! As others have stated it is a Cud, when a die (the striking part of the minting process) begins to wear, it will form cracks which become visible on a coin as a raised surface, the dies are under tremendous pressure and pounding constantly, die cracks that form from edge to edge, sometimes begin to shatter or chip this type of Cud is a chip out of the side of the die, can happen through careless handling of the dies during removal and cleaning as well.

This one is a really nice example, and even though the coin itself has been overtly cleaned and polished dimminising it's value somewhat, the Cud makes it quite collectible in it's own right.

Since you are a new member I don't know your interest level in collecting coins, but thanks for showing it here, hope you stick around, and share, participate and learn, we are a pretty friendly group. If you are curious more specifically about Cuds what they are and other examples see http://cuds-on-coins.com/ This Cud is unlisted there, I don't have my Cud book handy to check if it's listed under a Thurman designation.
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Thank you everyone for all the help that is great to know
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On another note does anyone know of a place I can get a Seated Liberty dollar under 100 hopefully? I just got into coin collecting and am trying to get one of each type of liberty seated and the dollar is the last thing I need
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You will not get a decent SL dollar for under $100, seriously. What's your rush?
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Haha No rush just interested if it was possible.
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However just so I know when I can afford it then what is the correct price to expect to pay for one?
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