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I'm no expert, but that looks cleaned to me
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Pillar of the Community
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 Lacking any toning I would say it had been dipped. |
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It's very very likely darker in person. GC has a tendency to make some coins look cleaned with their picture style and how much light they use.
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IK that the color might be off due to GC but what about the hairlines?
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IK that the color might be off due to GC but what about the hairlines? It's a 200+ year old coin that saw significant circulation, it's going to have marks on it. Digital pictures are going to make them look worse than they are, so will the extreme magnification and GCs picture style. That said it would be weirder if there were no marks anywhere |
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Looks like a nice coin to me, with typical gunmetal surfaces. You can get a nice shiny one from China.
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I agree with all of the questions that have been asked, and opinions offered, nevertheless,
If someone wants to pay for an example of this type (and I imagine quiet a few would at a reduced price), it would find a sale in the numismatic market place.
For many of us, it may well be the only way of obtaining a genuine draped bust Dollar at a price that is within their budget.
Straight grade? - I think not.
'Market acceptable'? - perhaps that is a matter of opinion.
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05/25/2019 7:06 pm
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I'm no expert, but that looks cleaned to me What I thought. Quote:
Lacking any toning I would say it had been dipped. That was my inital thought but what collector who could afford a DB$1 in that grade doesn't know proper dipping protocol? Quote:
It's very very likely darker in person. GC has a tendency to make some coins look cleaned with their picture style and how much light they use. Also an important factor. Quote:
It's a 200+ year old coin that saw significant circulation, it's going to have marks on it. Digital pictures are going to make them look worse than they are, so will the extreme magnification and GCs picture style. That said it would be weirder if there were no marks anywhere Very true. Quote:
Straight grade? - I think not.
'Market acceptable'? - perhaps that is a matter of opinion.
. In the end it's their educated opinions as well. |
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Compare pics. From PCGS.  From Great Collections.   |
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As a side note, these types of threads are considered in poor taste during an active auction and should wait until the sale has concluded. They can be used to try and suppress the price to get things cheaper (yes people have been caught doing that before) and they always end up getting a variety of opinions from people that have never seen the coin in hand and may not be familiar with 1700 dollars at all or the venues photographs.
I don't believe you were trying to suppress the price but did want to point it out. One of the best ways to look at it is if you were the consignor would you be happy if some thread had random people attacking your consignment, of course not and they deserve the same respect we would want to receive if it was us.
Now if there is a legitimate error such as a false attribution or variety issue that's different, but grade discussions should wait until the sale is completed
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As a side note, these types of threads are considered in poor taste during an active auction and should wait until the sale has concluded. They can be used to try and suppress the price to get things cheaper (yes people have been caught doing that before) and they always end up getting a variety of opinions from people that have never seen the coin in hand and may not be familiar with 1700 dollars at all or the venues photographs.
I don't believe you were trying to suppress the price but did want to point it out. One of the best ways to look at it is if you were the consignor would you be happy if some thread had random people attacking your consignment, of course not and they deserve the same respect we would want to receive if it was us.
Now if there is a legitimate error such as a false attribution or variety issue that's different, but grade discussions should wait until the sale is completed Didn't even think about that. I wouldn't do that in the first place but will keep it in mind in the furture. |
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Compare pics.
From PCGS. Looks a million times better in the PCGS pics. Quote:
Didn't even think about that. I wouldn't do that in the first place but will keep it in mind in the furture. I didn't think you meant any harm just wanted to point that out. |
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Great Collections is certainly not doing that coin any favors with those pics. They probably do it to highlight any details on the coin surface, and figure that most will look at the PCGS photos anyway.
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05/26/2019 09:40 am
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An interesting and education thread.
The PCGS and Great Collections photos are a world apart.
Paul Bulgerin
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