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1930 P LWC Looking For Answers On This Thing.

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I found this 1930 P LWC and its weight is 3.10 grams, the rim looks the cent was hit with something leaving a bevel on the rim, and yet is the same diameter as a normal Wheat cent yet if the rim wasn't flattened or beveled its diameter would be smaller than a normal Wheat cent. The word LIBERTY is far from the rim as well as IN GOD WE TRUST. What caused this as I have yet to see one quite like it.
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Looks like "ghosting" and extensive wear.
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Coinfrog, you can definitely see the indirect die transfer on the reverse. But what I'm stumped on is that there is a partial rim still showing on the obverse. The rim looks flattened as the bevel on the collar shows and if that hadn't happened the cent would be smaller in diameter than a normal cent yet it still weighs 3.10 grams exactly.
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here is a pic of the height between the 1930 and a normal Wheat cent. Had the rim not been pushed flat the cent would have been a tremendous amount smaller in diameter. This thing makes no sense.
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Ex-Bezel?
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jim - I see your points - didn't look closely enough.
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Coinfrog, I'm just completely stumped with this one. Probably because I haven't seen anything like it.
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Definitely not Broadstruck. Not an error coin, PSD. Definitely didn't happen at the U.S. Mint.
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Compressed in some way early on (as Grape says, bezel?) and then released into the wild long ago?
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David, at this point I'm going hold off on it being PSD and here's why. There is a rim 3/4 of the way around the obverse. If there wasn't what appears to be a proto rim I would go all in on the PSD idea. Wholeheartedly I would.
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Jim, sorry, but I am not convinced at all that this is an error coin. PSD is my final call for this one.
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There is a really good chance you're right.
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The flattened edge of the coin tells me it was altered. It wouldn't look like that if it was striking issue. The metal would move about in the collar, looking normal, or pushed deeper into the coin as an off center or broad struck coin would create.
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That concave edge is commonly seen on coins that have been removed from encasements
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Coin was removed from an encasement, such as a "lucky penny" or promotional item. The shape of the rim is a hallmark for such coins.

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