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Pillar of the Community
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Hello CCF!
I was thinking. What are the chances of finding errors and varieties per $25 pennies. Can one find at least one worth of keeping?
I've been through 10 boxes or so and only found 2 doubled dies and nothing else.
What is your experience?
I'm seeing some of you CONSTANTLY finding varieties and errors. Am I just not good at spotting them yet?
Would love to hear y'alls feedback!
Cheers!
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Rest in Peace
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Practice makes almost perfect. After you've examined markers for cents for particular varieties and find a few legitimate errors it will become easier and easier.
When I was learning (and still am) I sorted all the coins by date/mm. Doing so gives you much easier comparisons.
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Pillar of the Community
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Great questions.
One day I purchased 6 $25 boxes from Bank of America and I remember 4 of them boxes being duds.
So, "life was like a box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get."
As for folks here constantly posting.... Probably because of:
Quantity
Knowledge of how a coin should look like
Techniques/methods on reviewing a coin
My one suggestion about hunting would be if you don't know what is going on with a coin, post it or put it away till you gain experience. I have a tube with a question mark and when it gets full, I recheck the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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If I got a USB microscope and a book of everything to look for I'm sure I could probably find a variety or error per box, there's just that many of them however, there aren't as many actually worth looking for except for the die hard variety/error hunters. I'd rather get through the box in an hour or so and maybe miss a slightly doubled column reverse or a hornets nest, but that's me. You should be finding varieties in every box though, if for no other reason the 1982 cents which are plentiful. It really depends on where you set your personal bar on "worth keeping". I keep every Canadian and foreign coin I find as well as working on albums and every Wheat cent and every major variety or error I come across as well as some questionable coins that I just can't figure out And Are Probably worthless. I don't really go over them with a usb microscope though, just what I can find with my eyes first and then 5x mag lens to get a better look. When I was putting together 1982's I was just saving all of them I found in a jar and run through them all at once with a big pile. Same goes for 1960 large and small dates, same for 1970S. It really about where you draw your personal line at and how you go about it. I'm sure some people sort everything by dates and mint marks and go through the piles with a microscope one by one. Good luck and as always, you won't find it if you don't look for it.  Edited by Big-Kingdom
07/01/2019 8:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you for viewing this thread and pitching in. I very much appreciate your feedback. I figured out of 2500 coins one should find at least one variety or error per box. I check the dates of coins but don't inspect every single one. Pretty much only look for well known varieties (to me at least) Just didn't think it'd be that rare to find a variety worth keeping from 10 boxes I've been through. I've got two new boxes this evening, so hopefully I can find something worth keeping and sharing it here.
Appreciate your knowledge
Cheers
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What it is, is you don't really know what to look for yet. Study all these websites. They'll help you. Also need to practice training your eye, so you'll know exactly what to look for.
For Doubled Dies:
www.doubleddie.com
www.varietyvista.com
www.coppercoins.com
For Errors:
www.error-ref.com
www.cuds-on-coins.com
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thank you E&V appreciate you viewing and commenting. You are absolutely right, I am still learning. I don't habe very good equipment yet. Just my eyes and 8.5 loop I got from Stanley's office supplies store.
Cheers
Happy hunting!
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Pillar of the Community
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@Rookie2018,
When it comes to the hunt, I pretty much just use a 16x loop.
I use a USB microscope for die markers and pictures.
Using a USB microscope for hunting slows me down.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The biggest problem is that new collectors don't know what to look for. So check the websites to see what is and isn't doubled dies. save images of the different ways doubled die appear. And consider the years of the coins. Some of the dies are one of two different die creation processes. The older dies have different doubled die locations than the newer coins have. So take note of what to look for and where to look for a doubled die on a year/mint.
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Pillar of the Community
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LOM could you post a link to loop you use? Thank you Coop for your valuable feedback. I do try to look at some websites mentioned here but it's a lot of info to take in. I am learning every day by checking this forum out to learn what to look for and what doubles die is vs Machine Doubling and Die Deterioration, etc. still got lots to learn. Thank you for your view and feedback! Much appreciate it! Cheers! |
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Bedrock of the Community
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A way to test yourself to see what you are picking up is this. Look at the first post only. Look and determine what you feel is the issue with the image that is posted first. Write down your comment, then, read the comments to see if you are correct or not. I try to explain what I see, rather than a yes or no answer. I feel the coin detective skills are encouraged by doing teaching this way. A yes or no answer, gives the new collector an answer, but know why is better to educate the new collector. That is why I answer the way I do. It helps with seeing to know what it is. I was not taught that way, and I had to figure out on my own. But seeing and showing what I see, helps the student to advance a lot faster. What took me years to learn, is now learned by new collectors in weeks to a couple of months.
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07/01/2019 10:51 pm
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New Member
United States
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Best thing- USB microscope...it changes everything :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1070 Posts |
@LOM thank you for that link.
@coop I absolutely get that and you are an AMAZING asset to the community because you explain what you're seeing and trying to teach noobies like myself.
@DP88 thank you for your feedback and view. Mich appreciate it!
Cheers
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am not sure if you are doing this, but as a beginner I would recommend against just looking at each one and trying to see some doubling. Instead, I would make a list of particular date and mint mark combinations that are known doubled dies and then separate your coins. This is of course a much slower process but will allow you to really focus on learning the markers and comparing one to the next.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I haven't done any CRHing in a bit, but I still need magnification. I don't own a microscope and have, personally, not found a situation in which I would need one. I have a cheapo 10x/20x triplet loupe and also an illuminated 40x cheapo (doubt it's really 40x). That 40x loupe is the only one I use now. The lights help and it allows me to see close enough to see minor DDOs and the smallest of die chips/cracks. Anything not visible with that is not worth considering. Realistically, all you need is a (B+L) Hastings Triplet 10x loupe.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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