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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This coin arrived today and overall I like it, but I have some questions and wonder if I could get some opinions    Now this groove when I look at it from the side looks like it was made before impression, no raised edges and it is most shallow on the high points than low points. On the reverse, the last S in STATES has a groove also, even on the bottom curve of the S, but none inside the bottom curve, and there is similar luster in the groove as on the fields and devices, so was it damaged soon after minting, or was the die damaged? Also some cracks and a pit at the end of a crack.  Also there is a doubled effect of the neck area, but can't find any other. Is it re-engraved? I am trying to get better on Bust halves as they are so beautiful.  Thanks for looking. Jim |
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How coincidental, because just yesterday I saw what seems to be this exact 1825 variety. My first take was some kind of Machine Doubling, but then I noticed some slight doubling in the eyelid as well. The half looks very close to yours, except an MS grade. I think the slab said 0-102, but that's from memory. I'm sure the bust half collectors will have more complete/correct info.  |
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How odd , I hd it tentatively pegged as a O-105, but I am not the best at this. Looking at 102, The neck double line only looks like it goes to the larynx area, whereas on this one of mine, it almost makes it to the chin. Here is a close of the eye of this one and the eye of the other 1825. Like is fun ! this 1825 eye  the other 1825 eye  Thanks and waiting for the bust half pros. Jim |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I haven't attributed it here are my comments. Worn cleaned and lightly polished long ago. It has begun to tone around the edge. The dies are well worn with the reverse being more worn than the obv so I would say the reverse was probably used on another variety before it was paired with this obverse. The doubling on the throat is a form of Machine Doubling and is NOT a constant feature of the variety. The scrape across the curls and to the right of the 5 is damage and happened after the strike. (If it was in the planchet before striking the field of the die would have crushed it flat.) The "luster" appears the same both inside the scrape and in the field is because the coin was polished after the damage occured. OK, I've done the attribution and it is a late state O-105 R-2. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Conder, Thanks for the observations!Learning is lifelong! Gives me a lot
of practice in observation and photography.
Jim
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Pillar of the Community
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Machine doubling...how interesting! I learned something as well, thanks!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am easily won over by it, even if it does have some damage. I spent several hours with it and learned a lot of information and that is my "vice". I am a knowledge addict. I admit it, but easily diverted into other interesting areas ! Thanks for the comments all! Jim |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice detailed close-up photos..did you use camera or scanner to get these?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Atlashealth,
The first photos of the complete coin was taken with a Canon 590IS on macro setting, the following ones were taken with the same camera focused down one eyepiece of a B&L stereoscope. I can do so much more with this camera than I could with my Sony CD-500. Its a nice camera. Thanks for the comment.
Jim
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