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I need help identifying this 19mm coin. Head on one side and a charriot on the other. Thanks!   *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Looks like you have an ancient plated counterfeit called a fouree. the obverse is Augustus Caesar who was emperor from 27BC to 14 AD the reverse is from a denarius issued by moneyer Q. Antonius Balbus is 83-82BC. Mixing designs wasn't unusual when making these. Still very collectable, I collect fourees to match other coins on my collection.
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Interesting! So it is an ancient fake. Is it pronounced 4ee? How much is it worth? Can you post a picture of the real one if you have it?
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@dman, could you please post the weight of this piece?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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I dont have the weight. I can weigh it on Monday at work.
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Ok thanks. This isn't an area that I'm super-familiar with, but I guess I'm struggling to see why this is a fourree over a more modern fake. I'm sure that others will be able to provide much more knowledgeable opinions.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Actually, I will weigh it at the coin store today.
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It does appear to be a fouree. It looks contemporary to the period,but I'll leave t to more expert opinions to verify if it is r not.
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Hmmm. I believe that the "Q ANTO BAB / PR" in exergue, with the A-N-T ligate, are associated with the coins of Q. Antonius Balbus. But those denarii have Jupiter obverses - clearly not what we see here.
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Thanks for everyone's help. What does the enscription translate to?
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What does the enscription translate to? For "Q ANTO BAB" (it's actually probably BALB with the A and L ligate/attached), see: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/n...ius%20BalbusFor the "PR" see: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/n...w.asp?key=PRThe fact that the obverse is not a bust of Jupiter, but rather seems to be from a later issue - looks to me like a bare-headed Augustus (which would be decades later) - may be concerning. But perhaps some of the Roman collectors will chime in to provide their opinions. I am out of my depth with Roman Republican. Maybe the coin is fine. Edit: I see that Badger Mint ID'ed both obverse and reverse earlier, above. I missed that previously. Edited by Kamnaskires
07/20/2019 6:54 pm
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Thanks for your help Bob L.
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An ancient fourree would typically have a copper core. There is a possibility that this is a modern (mid-20th C) reproduction with a thin silver coating over a pot metal core. If it were a fourree, one would expect the silver loss to be the result of corroding copper below. Here, the metal uderneath seems in good condition. Crisper photos, including images of the edge, would be useful.
Edited by Kushanshah
07/20/2019 9:40 pm
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Here are a couple more pictures.   |
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Posted 07/20/2019 10:03 am
